Now I have to rethink my glyph choice, thanks to your post on Glyphs.

For now, we are just doing Heroic Anub in the 10s. With my 4 piece T9 bonus and glyphed rejuv, rejuv and nourish do a fair job at keeping the raid and the tanks alive during phase 3 (if I remember to take care of my own health *cough* ) I’ll be honest, the 4piece T9 + rejuv glyph for that fight add up to some pretty beastly heals for the raid/tanks. The value of that T9 bonus really shines here, even though it’s value is arguable in a lot of other places.

That being said, I may grab up a few HT glyphs to add to my bags and give it a whirl one night and see how I like it. Right now I’m swapping my third glyph between rejuv and innervate, depending on what we are working on.

Not gonna lie, it is amazing.

I did it a long while back but then decided that 14/0/57 is such a robust build that I switched back within the week even though I liked the fast HT.

Then I read about how Cows uses glyphed Healing Touch for heroic Anub and thought I might try it again to see if it is viable in light of some of the differences in damage between ToC and Ulduar. Additionally with the current nerfs to our hots (T8 4P got cut in half) and the upcoming nerfs (3 seconds less on Rejuv) I decided I needed a heal that packed some heat instead of just taking the nerfs lying down, and glyphed HT certainly is that.

I basically love it. It will eat your mana like crazy but I think it is great and accounts for about 20% of my healing on alot of fights now with Rejuv and WG over it.

The acceleration of Nourish was just too slow and unless you are spamming a tank I think constanct speed and power is better than extra crit, eventual 1.1 second cast and scaling with hots.

In case you want to look up my druid my name is Thomasor from Nerz’hul

In reviewing my healing assignment (the raid), my healing style, and how much use I got from Nature’s Grace, the answer for me was “no”. Even with the burstier damage found in ToC and TotGC, both 10 and 25, I still have found limited use for Nourish. Do I use it more now than I did in Ulduar, yes. Do I use it enough to warrant 3 talent points to situationally reduce it’s cast time for a spell that I use situationally? No.

Nourish still accounts for less than 10% of my overall healing (I think regrowth is somewhere around there too, I’d have to double check my parses), 20% on certain encounters…maybe. It just seems like a lot of talent points for a “proc” type boost, that won’t benefit me everytime I use the spell.

Again, everyone will have a different healing style and different healing assignments. For some, Nature’s Grace will certainly retain it’s benefit. However, I do think it’s important to explore the possibility that for other’s it isn’t worth the talent points given to it.

The only thing that was nerfed regarding rejuv in 3.2 was the T8 4 piece set bonus. I switched out of the set bonus this week, and Rejuv was still my number one heal by a landslide on all encounters we saw during the week.

Will the 3.3 nerf to rejuv affect this? Maybe. It means that we will be able to roll rejuv on 3 fewer targets. It means that our rejuvs might be a bit less juicy. I think the number crunchers are preliminarily thinking that it will be ~8% nerf to our overall healing. An 8% nerf to a spell that accounts for more than 60% of my healing on most fights will certainly be felt, but not enough to push a spell that is often less than 10% of my overall healing in 25 man raids.

For PvE builds, I drop natural perfection. I end up with plenty of critical strike rating, and getting the bonus haste from Nature’s Grace is worth more than the 3% crit rating.

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#0VG0uZZf0fuduxiuVGsVo

With the rejuvenation nerf in 3.2, and the fact that Blizzard is moving towards more burst-damage and less support for rejuv-spam, people should be thinking about talents that work well with nourish and how to improve them, to move back towards a nourish-centric build for handling the burst damage that rejuv alone isn’t meant to deal with.

Perhaps I didn’t phrase my thoughts as clearly as I should have. I don’t know if it should be a “this or that” debate, as much as a “Is it worth using 3 talent points in this talent anymore” debate.

I honestly think that the answer will be individualized and more about each person’s playstyle and raid responsibilities than anything else. For me, a largely 25 man raider assigned to raid heals, I’m not sure that it is anymore.

That being said, I’m still only 5 points under the soft cap, so, for me, I’m not sure going down into Celestial Focus would be beneficial. I think I would end up having to give up more in the resto tree than I’d like. However, the other resto druid in our guild has a celestial focus build, and heals quite well also, so I would think it’s quite a viable build.

I still scratch my head at the “either NG or Emp Touch” debate, though. I’ve had both for over half a year now >.> I just don’t have imp barkskin, and have a point dropped out of GotEM.

My raid role can flex depending on who is in attendance, I can be put on tank or raid heals, so I try to keep that in mind and be flexible enough to cover both jobs.