No, really. You do.

Yay!!! Grats!

We got him down this weekend, though it was messy and we used our BL in P1 to limit the number of P1/P2 switches… but we did it! /little dance.

Your tips helped us a lot

If you take a peak at our parses from last night, if they were alive our two arcane mages were at the top of our charts. (And we got to 15% before we were out of pulls!!!)

As for your Anub DPS, our DPS in that group did extremely well, and I think we hit phase 3 with in excess of 15 seconds before the burrow, so it was a bit more than was truly needed. Keep at it! I’m sure you will get it!

About WoL, do you now that you can split the report ? You just have to select the part of the fight you want on the graph. That’s explained here : http://www.worldoflogs.com/help/client/

And about your Twins tries, your arcane mages should really be well ahead of everyone, because (as my pocket Mage explained to me) they have a talent that gives them spell power when they are taking damages, and the continuous damages you take on the Twins fight make them under this buff all the time.

1) Do you always bring in 3 of the physical DPS? Do you always have your ret paladin, or is your hunter spec’d into replenishment talents?
2) Are you two or three healing the encounter? My guess is two, but I don’t know for sure!
3) Do you bring in two or three of your casters? I am assuming that you bring three, including your shaman?
4) Do you let your casters stay on Anub full time, or make them handle the adds?
5) What class do you have tanking the adds? I want to guess your Prot Paladin? Is he using a block value set? (I can shoot you an email with the block sets that our tanks are building and how they can basically mitigate almost all of the damage from the adds, if you want. The add tank in our group gave his a test spin last night and was a pinch to heal for the entire encounter).

It’s tough to really synergize more than you already have for a strict 10 man guild, I would think, without having to over recruit. We only have the luxary of stacking the way we do because we have such a large pool to choose from.

Here is our parse from last night’s 10 Anub with the Sylvanas group (it’s the first two pulls in the parse, ignore the Valkyr part of the parse…that is our HM 25 attempts, although our last pull was 35% which I am quite pleased with!): http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/xw4dgp7sul316e1j/sum/damageDone/

The only change made in the group was healing, as both the druid and paladin that were in that group were out last night, so I healed with Dannie (who is largely in 232/226 gear) and the priest that is normally in the group. Normally the group’s druid goes Moonkin to pew pew, and they have a paladin that heals the encounter with the priest.

We *always* let our casters stay on Anub, rather than switch to the adds. The reasons for this are that most of the casters have so much wind up/debuff stacking, etc. that it is a huge boost to their DPS to let them stay on Anub rather than to have them constantly re-dubuffing a new target. We put the rogue in that group, and last night the hunter, on the adds. They have fast, bursty damage, and their AE affects can also hit Anub if the adds are tanked in a position that permits this.

If we only have one melee in the group, we move a bursty caster (usually an arcane mage or destro lock) to assist the rogue with the adds. We have a lock or a hunter shoot the orbs down in this group. As soon as they are done with ~4-5 they immediately move to Anub.

To answer your direct question about the balance of DPS, here is what our breakdown last night looked like:

Jail (rogue) 16.9% of the damage for the fight – Jail is an *extremely* strong player, and the fight plays well to his damage.

Jontaxe (ele shaman) 16.07% of the damage – Jontaxe died going into P3, and had to ankh to BL. If we hadn’t of lost him, I think he probably would have topped Jail’s damage.

Hellspawned (desto lock) 15.99% – This was his first time ever seeing the encounter in hard mode.

Develdoctor (MM hunter, I think) 15.95%

Kraid (destro lock) 13.55% – Kraid was our “orb bitch” last night, which is why his damage is a bit lower than Hellspawned. I think if he hadn’t needed to shoot orbs he would have been closer to Hellspawned and Jontaxe in damage.

Drath (fire mage) 10.47% – Drath was our lowest performer on the numbers, *but* I think this is largely because this particular spec isn’t the strongest during the kite phase, and he can’t wind up as well as the others on the little bugs. Brade did state that Drath was pushing his threat on Anub during the Anub DPS phases.

We did not have a Moonkin or Shadow Priest in this group last night to support the casters.

In general, the raid was actually fairly equal in their damage output for this fight (and I think was just a bit off as a group on Thursday). However, our rogue was still very strong, even unsupported. I tend to think, though, that this is more directly releated to this rogue’s ability more than anything else, as last week the rogue in the group did not perform nearly as well. The caster’s also performed very, very well last night. And were right on the rogue’s heels, which makes me think that the balance was OK.

That being said, with your group make up, I think your melee will probably outshine your casters, but you have enough caster support, that I would think they shouldn’t be too far behind the melee, as far as output goes.

As for the splits in the 25s, it really depends on the fight. Our melee team are *very* strong, and for some fights, ecspecially those where our casters have to move, dominate. But, there are also fights were we have some of our caster team giving the melee a run for their money as well.

I hope that helps some!!! Good Luck with Anub!

I’m going to make a few changes again for this week, and see if we can’t get both groups in 5 pulls or less.

Oh…and keep writing! I always visit looking for something new

It’s made me wonder if caster dps hasn’t been balanced against physical dps in the raid-buff constraints of 10-man raiding. Did your caster group at least have the +hit buff from IFF/Misery?

Or is the same split often seen in 25-mans, as well?

For the past three to four weeks I’ve been trying to organize my guild’s 10mans. The first two weeks was simply ToC10 which 2 groups were able to complete no problem. I also created a 3rd group which is filled with the runoff of people interested but not quite geared along with some alts from the first 2 groups.

The past 2 weeks we’ve also been making time for ToGC10 and the first week we had Group Eagle (I named my groups Eagle, Owl, Parrot, and soon to implement Magpie) clear and get tribute to mad skill, Group Owl got stuck on Faction champs and called it a night, and Parrot is not something I’d like to mention for ToGC10.

This past week though I also made some tweaks to try and help synergize the groups (splitting up healing/tank classes to provide diversity, trying to cover as many buffs in each group as possible, etc) and this week Group Eagle simply could NOT kill Anub and instead it was Group Owl that finished with 48 attempts remaining.

I’m also not quite sure what to do except perhaps tweak the groups a bit more until my guild can reliably do this with more and more groups because the ToGC10 gear and 4 trophies at the end are quite valuable to the guild.