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		<title>By: TotC: the disco &#171; Righteous Orbs</title>
		<link>http://fallingleavesandwings.wordpress.com/2009/11/03/on-respect/#comment-2700</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Nov 2010 13:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Thankfully, though, we had Snotty to save the day. And connected to / inspired by said worms, a post from Beru  on respect. *takes notes* [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Thankfully, though, we had Snotty to save the day. And connected to / inspired by said worms, a post from Beru  on respect. *takes notes* [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tamarind</title>
		<link>http://fallingleavesandwings.wordpress.com/2009/11/03/on-respect/#comment-599</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 23:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When I said &quot;girls are fun&quot; I didn&#039;t also affirm their ability to play the game as well as men, because I thought it went without saying.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I said &#8220;girls are fun&#8221; I didn&#8217;t also affirm their ability to play the game as well as men, because I thought it went without saying.</p>
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		<title>By: Tamarind</title>
		<link>http://fallingleavesandwings.wordpress.com/2009/11/03/on-respect/#comment-598</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tamarind]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 23:40:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just caught up with this business and I&#039;m still reeling from it.  i genuinely can&#039;t believe anybody would think it was in any way appropriate to leave a comment like that Keredria&#039;s own damn blog!  Disagree, fair enough, but that kind of random abuse - ye gods!

Also there&#039;s an incredible sense of ignorant entitlement in male only guilds not present in female-only guilds.  I can completely understand and support he latter, whereas the former merely re-affirm all that is wrong with gaming culture.  There&#039;s a huge difference between a safe space and discrimination.

And let&#039;s not forget that male-only guilds are just plain dumb.  Girls are fun.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just caught up with this business and I&#8217;m still reeling from it.  i genuinely can&#8217;t believe anybody would think it was in any way appropriate to leave a comment like that Keredria&#8217;s own damn blog!  Disagree, fair enough, but that kind of random abuse &#8211; ye gods!</p>
<p>Also there&#8217;s an incredible sense of ignorant entitlement in male only guilds not present in female-only guilds.  I can completely understand and support he latter, whereas the former merely re-affirm all that is wrong with gaming culture.  There&#8217;s a huge difference between a safe space and discrimination.</p>
<p>And let&#8217;s not forget that male-only guilds are just plain dumb.  Girls are fun.</p>
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		<title>By: Beruthiel</title>
		<link>http://fallingleavesandwings.wordpress.com/2009/11/03/on-respect/#comment-588</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Beruthiel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 23:50:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Too true, Bird.  It is always better to keep the lid on the kettle!

Of course, I sometimes need a reminder of that!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too true, Bird.  It is always better to keep the lid on the kettle!</p>
<p>Of course, I sometimes need a reminder of that!</p>
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		<title>By: Beruthiel</title>
		<link>http://fallingleavesandwings.wordpress.com/2009/11/03/on-respect/#comment-587</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Beruthiel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 23:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just get so mad when people forget respect.

I mean...disagree, go ahead!  But keep to the argument.  There is no need to get personal.

I will say though, that it certainly made for some interesting reading and thinking!  I was actually a bit surprised all the hullabaloo it stirred up :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just get so mad when people forget respect.</p>
<p>I mean&#8230;disagree, go ahead!  But keep to the argument.  There is no need to get personal.</p>
<p>I will say though, that it certainly made for some interesting reading and thinking!  I was actually a bit surprised all the hullabaloo it stirred up <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Beruthiel</title>
		<link>http://fallingleavesandwings.wordpress.com/2009/11/03/on-respect/#comment-586</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Beruthiel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 23:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I do think that the flaunting of it...and their &quot;reasoning&quot; behind it are what make it so contreversial.

I won&#039;t like though...you know that spot in BFD where you have to jump (by the murlocs)?  Yea...I still fail that jump probably 50% of the time I go there.  And I will admit that I joke &quot;Sorry guys, everyon knows girls can&#039;t jump in video games&quot; when I fail.  That being said, I&#039;m usually just with Brade or a group of friends who know that I&#039;m just kidding...but perhaps comments like that, even taken in jest, are what keep stereotypes like this alive.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do think that the flaunting of it&#8230;and their &#8220;reasoning&#8221; behind it are what make it so contreversial.</p>
<p>I won&#8217;t like though&#8230;you know that spot in BFD where you have to jump (by the murlocs)?  Yea&#8230;I still fail that jump probably 50% of the time I go there.  And I will admit that I joke &#8220;Sorry guys, everyon knows girls can&#8217;t jump in video games&#8221; when I fail.  That being said, I&#8217;m usually just with Brade or a group of friends who know that I&#8217;m just kidding&#8230;but perhaps comments like that, even taken in jest, are what keep stereotypes like this alive.</p>
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		<title>By: Beruthiel</title>
		<link>http://fallingleavesandwings.wordpress.com/2009/11/03/on-respect/#comment-585</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Beruthiel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 23:45:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think discrimination is limited to America, sadly.  I do feel that it&#039;s a world wide issue...Americans just have big mouths and talk about it more ;)

I do agree though, once they started attacking K on a personal level, they lost 100% of their credibility, and any portion of their argument that had any validity went out the window.  All it takes is one stone.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think discrimination is limited to America, sadly.  I do feel that it&#8217;s a world wide issue&#8230;Americans just have big mouths and talk about it more <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I do agree though, once they started attacking K on a personal level, they lost 100% of their credibility, and any portion of their argument that had any validity went out the window.  All it takes is one stone.</p>
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		<title>By: Beruthiel</title>
		<link>http://fallingleavesandwings.wordpress.com/2009/11/03/on-respect/#comment-584</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Beruthiel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 23:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ru- I think that you should absolutely give K your thoughts!  I bet she&#039;d love to hear them.  I think one of your DotH guildmates did make a statement on her site :)

Eh...it&#039;s a touchy subject, for sure.  But honestly, you aren&#039;t discriminating because &quot;boys can&#039;t play WoW&quot; or because &quot;all boys cause drama&quot;, you are creating a unique environment in which you want to play...without making a statement other than &quot;must be a hen to join the hen party&quot;.  I think it&#039;s hugely different, at least in my opinion.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ru- I think that you should absolutely give K your thoughts!  I bet she&#8217;d love to hear them.  I think one of your DotH guildmates did make a statement on her site <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Eh&#8230;it&#8217;s a touchy subject, for sure.  But honestly, you aren&#8217;t discriminating because &#8220;boys can&#8217;t play WoW&#8221; or because &#8220;all boys cause drama&#8221;, you are creating a unique environment in which you want to play&#8230;without making a statement other than &#8220;must be a hen to join the hen party&#8221;.  I think it&#8217;s hugely different, at least in my opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: Ruana</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ruana]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:16:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was once GL of DotH, and am still a member of both DotA and DotH, though nowhere near as active as I used to be (Llane taking up way too much time these days, but I&#039;m working on it!).

We didn&#039;t really actively recruit anyone. When we were working on raiding in the Kara days, we did occasionally post a recruitment post in the Livejournal forum from which we spun off. But we have never been hardcore raiders.

Should we be called out because we discriminate? Whether or not there is a sisterhood behind it all, we do still not let you in if you don&#039;t identify as female. Perhaps because we&#039;re smaller and we don&#039;t recruit actively and we don&#039;t hardcore raid it goes by unnoticed, but it&#039;s still there, at the end of the day.

And I probably should be posting this on the other blog, but I know you, Beru/Earen. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was once GL of DotH, and am still a member of both DotA and DotH, though nowhere near as active as I used to be (Llane taking up way too much time these days, but I&#8217;m working on it!).</p>
<p>We didn&#8217;t really actively recruit anyone. When we were working on raiding in the Kara days, we did occasionally post a recruitment post in the Livejournal forum from which we spun off. But we have never been hardcore raiders.</p>
<p>Should we be called out because we discriminate? Whether or not there is a sisterhood behind it all, we do still not let you in if you don&#8217;t identify as female. Perhaps because we&#8217;re smaller and we don&#8217;t recruit actively and we don&#8217;t hardcore raid it goes by unnoticed, but it&#8217;s still there, at the end of the day.</p>
<p>And I probably should be posting this on the other blog, but I know you, Beru/Earen. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Adeanna</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Adeanna]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 22:14:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[you&#039;ve made good points here. IMO, when NCA had to attack Keredria personally, they lacked a good counter-argument. their no girls allowed policy is a joke, and a narrow-minded, immature, unprofessional, lazy way of dealing with drama/junk players/whatevers. 

and it is sad to see that people in America still discriminate against others. don&#039;t they realize how that drags us down and keeps us from moving forward?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you&#8217;ve made good points here. IMO, when NCA had to attack Keredria personally, they lacked a good counter-argument. their no girls allowed policy is a joke, and a narrow-minded, immature, unprofessional, lazy way of dealing with drama/junk players/whatevers. </p>
<p>and it is sad to see that people in America still discriminate against others. don&#8217;t they realize how that drags us down and keeps us from moving forward?</p>
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