Comments on: Does the New Dungeon Finder Discourage Communication?

By: Maenfalyn

Maenfalyn — Tue, 29 Dec 2009 06:52:07 +0000

I have also never bailed on a pug, simply because the thought hasn’t occurred to me xD I’m pretty used to healing tanks under 30k from the old lfg, so I would never ditch a group right away for that *shrugs* but I’m a resto druid so I guess we are just easier going

But I know EXACTLY what you mean about the social element lacking. Mostly for me it’s because I started heroics just before the new system, and I guess I’m a pretty good heal because people I ended grouped with would often add me as a friend so that we could check with each other in the future for a semi-pug, since that was the easiest way to fill spots in the old system. But now it’s so easier to get another dps or a tank that I haven’t even looked at my friend list in the last couple weeks, and haven’t gotten any whispers asking for a heal either (maybe one, but it’s still sad )), so for me I wish that there was some way of keeping in contact with the people you pug with and like, but there isn’t a cross server friend list that I’m aware of, so you just have no way of keeping in contact with a good tank or a funny dps ya know? I guess I just don’t have enough rl friends or something…. lol

By: Beruthiel

Beruthiel — Tue, 15 Dec 2009 22:58:06 +0000

The only time I’ve had trouble *healing* HoR was on my shaman…with Brade’s tissue paper DK tanking. Oh god, the horror that was that run. It was a good thing it was all guild, or I think everyone would have left (hah!). I actually ended up bringing my druid to salvage it. However, I went back into the zone with Brade’s paladin and healed it with ease on my shaman…so, um, it was the tanks fault!

I think the group does a fairly decent job of putting together diverse groups, that *should* be able to complete the zone it’s assigned you.

By: Beruthiel

Beruthiel — Tue, 15 Dec 2009 22:55:26 +0000

Cheap Sex I think is a really great discription of how it feels sometimes!

Don’t be me wrong it is a VAST improvement in the system, and it really is a good tool. I just wish people weren’t so…easy (haha, see what I did there?!).

I find I only get my hackles up if someone is being completely obscene/rude. I also cheer for the underdog, so if that tank needs a bit of help I’m gonna do my best to make sure they leave a little better than they came in…and screw you, jerk face DPS. Go jump off a saronite pillar!

By: Beruthiel

Beruthiel — Tue, 15 Dec 2009 22:52:44 +0000

Like you, it is my hope that if people are pleasant and helpful, others might learn lessons they may not already know. Of course, I could just be being all kinds of optimistic about that whole thing as well

By: Beruthiel

Beruthiel — Tue, 15 Dec 2009 22:51:17 +0000

You could be right, it could just be that as a civilization, we tend to be mostly anti-social folk. The prevelance of fast food and “quick and easy” into our society is enough evidence of that. I remember growing up sitting down to a family meal that was placed on the table, where we all sat down and ate together and chatted about our day. Perhaps I’m just getting to the point that “my” generation is becoming the “past” and I’m just too stubborn to let it all go Speed and efficiency may be nice, but there is something to be said about stopping to sniff the flowers too! *inhales*

You may be correct, that once the people that feel “forced” to be there are finished, we find that the atmoshpere changes some.

The only instance I refuse to do is Oculus (I know it’s nerfed, I don’t care! I hate that zone with every ounce of my being), and somehow Murphy has been with me, and I haven’t had it pop up. Of course, now that I’ve said something the first instance I get tonight will be that one…

By: Beruthiel

Beruthiel — Tue, 15 Dec 2009 22:46:54 +0000

I haven’t really seen much poor need rolling on anything but the orbs. It really chaps my hide that someone will sit there and watch everyone else select greed, and then roll last and hit need. I’ve actually taken to patiently outwaiting everyone to see if anyone rolls need. If so, then I will roll need, and if I win ask if everyone that had greeded the item would like to re-roll for it. I don’t know why it bothers me so much, but that is the one thing that really chaps my hide!

I do dislike that in most of the runs, people can’t really be bothered to, be social, I guess. I’m not against efficiency, but I also don’t like feeling that I’m stuck in some strange alternate universe where I am the only one alive in a realm dominated by thinking machienes (oh god, this sounds like some terrible B movie!).

What I think they system adds is convienence and ease of grouping, which I *do* like. But it seems it came a little bit at the expense of some of the social aspect of the game, which I do *not* like.

By: Beruthiel

Beruthiel — Tue, 15 Dec 2009 22:42:07 +0000

I think I probably would have found that amusing as well! Sometimes people should filter what comes out of their fingers a little better!

Grrr…I hate the “rez me” people as well. I mean, HELLO it’s not as if I cannot SEE that you are dead. I will get there when I have a chance!

By: Beruthiel

Beruthiel — Tue, 15 Dec 2009 22:40:35 +0000

I have had both ends of the spectrum. Really polite groups, and groups filled with really arrogant folks, who are apparently Elune’s gift to WoW.

I’d much rather prefer a polite, undergeared group of folks than a group full of better geared folks that aren’t as nice.

There is definately something to be said about keeping the tank and healer happy, though!

By: Verile

Verile — Tue, 15 Dec 2009 17:55:04 +0000

So far, I have actually been really lucky with the new tool. At least besides drawing HoR 4 times. There was only 1 time out of the probably 15ish runs I have done that we did not complete the instance and it was HoR because of lack of sufficient DPS on the Arthas encounter.

Most people have seemed very friendly and competent. I guess I have soared under a lucky star! Hopefully this doesn’t jinx me!

By: Keredria

Keredria — Tue, 15 Dec 2009 15:52:53 +0000

I found myself in a heroic Nexus with two pallys from the same guild, a prot and ret. They proceeded to chain pull several groups of trash. Because these chain pulls included a number of mages, I was locked out of healing for a good while and the ret pally died. Their response? “When we run, we like to go big. Shake it off boys, shake it off”.

I should have been annoyed, but I was more amused. I think I’ve found that unless someone in these pugs starts giving me shit, I am not going to react. I am still waiting for the poor soul who decides they want to go down this dark dark road.

But yeah, Jess likened this new LFG system to cheap sex/aka a one night stand.