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	<title>Comments on: What Is The Value of Alts?</title>
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	<description>My Thoughts on Healing, Raiding, and being a Resto Druid</description>
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		<title>By: Thomasor</title>
		<link>http://fallingleavesandwings.wordpress.com/2010/01/19/what-is-the-value-of-alts/#comment-972</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thomasor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 14:50:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In I guess &#039;hardcore&#039; progression guilds alts are basically the best thing since sliced bread. When new content has come out in ICC we run full clear (Blood Queen and Putricide defeated) on two ICC 25 mans and will probably get everything but the two last bosses this week on our third 25 man. We also run six 10 mans and make sure that we only  have one rogue per 10 man, only one holy paladin, one tank with a shield etc. so that alts are basically running mains through the instance to soak gear.

When their isn&#039;t a ton of content, it&#039;s a signifigant amount of raiding if you have several alts, but it&#039;s fun content unlike ToC. The rise of alts is really tied to the attempt limit, where being able to do content on multiple lockouts helps you see it and plan etc. before you have to waste attempts on your uber geared mains.

That being said most of our alts are of different classes then our mains, I play a resto druid and then a holy priest as an alt. If you want to take it to the next level you can just level a second main which I think is what alot of people in Ensidia are doing. They all have their mains, then they have a second character of the same class and specc that is slighly undergeared. This effectively doubles your tries on hard modes. Crazy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In I guess &#8216;hardcore&#8217; progression guilds alts are basically the best thing since sliced bread. When new content has come out in ICC we run full clear (Blood Queen and Putricide defeated) on two ICC 25 mans and will probably get everything but the two last bosses this week on our third 25 man. We also run six 10 mans and make sure that we only  have one rogue per 10 man, only one holy paladin, one tank with a shield etc. so that alts are basically running mains through the instance to soak gear.</p>
<p>When their isn&#8217;t a ton of content, it&#8217;s a signifigant amount of raiding if you have several alts, but it&#8217;s fun content unlike ToC. The rise of alts is really tied to the attempt limit, where being able to do content on multiple lockouts helps you see it and plan etc. before you have to waste attempts on your uber geared mains.</p>
<p>That being said most of our alts are of different classes then our mains, I play a resto druid and then a holy priest as an alt. If you want to take it to the next level you can just level a second main which I think is what alot of people in Ensidia are doing. They all have their mains, then they have a second character of the same class and specc that is slighly undergeared. This effectively doubles your tries on hard modes. Crazy.</p>
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		<title>By: Beruthiel</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Beruthiel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 19:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think I already said it in a comment above, but just in case, alts aren&#039;t welcome in our main progression raids unless we are desperate and in need of something specific, and the player has proven their worth to us previously.

That being said, sometimes we do open very farmed content up for alts to join.  We also do host &quot;alt&quot; friendly runs on off nights for those interested :)

I think we have a pretty good policy with regards to alts, so for us I largely think they are a benefit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I already said it in a comment above, but just in case, alts aren&#8217;t welcome in our main progression raids unless we are desperate and in need of something specific, and the player has proven their worth to us previously.</p>
<p>That being said, sometimes we do open very farmed content up for alts to join.  We also do host &#8220;alt&#8221; friendly runs on off nights for those interested <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I think we have a pretty good policy with regards to alts, so for us I largely think they are a benefit.</p>
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		<title>By: Beruthiel</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Beruthiel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 19:54:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is actually hugely rare that we let an alt into our progression raids, and it&#039;s only permitted when deemed &quot;necessary&quot; and only if the player has proven skill at their alt to us previously.

I would disagree, however, that people can&#039;t be proficient at more than 2 toons.  I&#039;d like to think I&#039;m above average on all 4 of my healers, and when I&#039;m in a group of similarly geared toons, I do decently enough with my mage, although she is admittedly my weakest toon...largely just out of neglect :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is actually hugely rare that we let an alt into our progression raids, and it&#8217;s only permitted when deemed &#8220;necessary&#8221; and only if the player has proven skill at their alt to us previously.</p>
<p>I would disagree, however, that people can&#8217;t be proficient at more than 2 toons.  I&#8217;d like to think I&#8217;m above average on all 4 of my healers, and when I&#8217;m in a group of similarly geared toons, I do decently enough with my mage, although she is admittedly my weakest toon&#8230;largely just out of neglect <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Beruthiel</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Beruthiel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 19:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I do like the changes with gear in WotLK from an alt perspective.  The gear resets definately let me keep up to par much easier than TBC or Vanilla.

All of my alts have at least their 4pc T9 bonuses, if not better gear.  I don&#039;t chain run heroics though because I don&#039;t want to burn myself out on them.  This means that I&#039;ll probably be a bit behind with regards to frost emblems on them, but it&#039;s ok because there is going to be a whole lot of ICC before Cataclysm hits...so I&#039;ll either catch up or I&#039;ll have a fresh reset!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do like the changes with gear in WotLK from an alt perspective.  The gear resets definately let me keep up to par much easier than TBC or Vanilla.</p>
<p>All of my alts have at least their 4pc T9 bonuses, if not better gear.  I don&#8217;t chain run heroics though because I don&#8217;t want to burn myself out on them.  This means that I&#8217;ll probably be a bit behind with regards to frost emblems on them, but it&#8217;s ok because there is going to be a whole lot of ICC before Cataclysm hits&#8230;so I&#8217;ll either catch up or I&#8217;ll have a fresh reset!</p>
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		<title>By: Beruthiel</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Beruthiel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 19:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I definately think that there are some class types that people are just inherantly more comfortable performing.  And the same could be said for competence too :)

You are right with regards to alts not getting as much love as mains, but I&#039;ve seen lots of alts who are just as good, if not better, than some mains as well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I definately think that there are some class types that people are just inherantly more comfortable performing.  And the same could be said for competence too <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>You are right with regards to alts not getting as much love as mains, but I&#8217;ve seen lots of alts who are just as good, if not better, than some mains as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Beruthiel</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Beruthiel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 19:47:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I enjoy leveling :)  But then again, I might just be wierd!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoy leveling <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   But then again, I might just be wierd!</p>
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		<title>By: Beruthiel</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Beruthiel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 19:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I tend to level lower level alts that aren&#039;t in Northrend when I&#039;m starting to feel a bit burnt out.  I find that re-visiting the old areas revitalizes me a bit. :)

Like you, I am pretty OCD about playing anything that I&#039;m going to attach myself to, so I max out my trade skills and try to genuinely understand the mechanics of the class!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tend to level lower level alts that aren&#8217;t in Northrend when I&#8217;m starting to feel a bit burnt out.  I find that re-visiting the old areas revitalizes me a bit. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Like you, I am pretty OCD about playing anything that I&#8217;m going to attach myself to, so I max out my trade skills and try to genuinely understand the mechanics of the class!</p>
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		<title>By: Berry</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Berry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 18:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Alts are a tough call.  They are very very useful to fill in for missing players.  IF your guild has a very active raiding culture with off night alt raids, alts can be a great deal of fun, and useful for learning fights better.  I love my alts. ;)

The dark side of alts are raiders who gear up their main, then want to switch over to an alt and start gearing that one.  As we progress further into the flavor of the month progression raid, the bosses get more difficult.  Maybe its been open for a bit and we have it on semi-farm.  X-the-healer has gotten all his drops, so now he wants to bring X-the-hunter or X-the-shammie.  Suddenly the raid is down an experienced and geared healer, and the content just got a LOT harder.  

With a good policy for when and if people bring their alts to the progression raids, gear policies that favor mains over alts, and a process in place for how often people switch mains, I adore alts in raiding guilds and think they are beneficial.  Without those policies, they can be a detriment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alts are a tough call.  They are very very useful to fill in for missing players.  IF your guild has a very active raiding culture with off night alt raids, alts can be a great deal of fun, and useful for learning fights better.  I love my alts. <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>The dark side of alts are raiders who gear up their main, then want to switch over to an alt and start gearing that one.  As we progress further into the flavor of the month progression raid, the bosses get more difficult.  Maybe its been open for a bit and we have it on semi-farm.  X-the-healer has gotten all his drops, so now he wants to bring X-the-hunter or X-the-shammie.  Suddenly the raid is down an experienced and geared healer, and the content just got a LOT harder.  </p>
<p>With a good policy for when and if people bring their alts to the progression raids, gear policies that favor mains over alts, and a process in place for how often people switch mains, I adore alts in raiding guilds and think they are beneficial.  Without those policies, they can be a detriment.</p>
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		<title>By: crankyhealer</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[crankyhealer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 17:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m currently messing about as a hunter for just that reason: to understand how they work.  I also can&#039;t bear to play my pally, but I know that I need to understand their mechanics to be an effective healing coordinator, so I cheat and read pally blogs.

I think your raiding program will suffer if you let anyone bring just about any alt to a raid.  There&#039;s only so much the human brain can remember.  There are very few players that I&#039;ve met who are proficient at more than 2 toons.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m currently messing about as a hunter for just that reason: to understand how they work.  I also can&#8217;t bear to play my pally, but I know that I need to understand their mechanics to be an effective healing coordinator, so I cheat and read pally blogs.</p>
<p>I think your raiding program will suffer if you let anyone bring just about any alt to a raid.  There&#8217;s only so much the human brain can remember.  There are very few players that I&#8217;ve met who are proficient at more than 2 toons.</p>
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		<title>By: Shayzani</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shayzani]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 21:23:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve had an army of alts since late BC and they&#039;ve benefited from the changes in Wrath greatly. I could probably tank and heal Icecrown10 on my paladin and my druid (as in, both characters could both tank and heal) and I could do great damage on my lock, mage and rogue. 

My hunter and priest are the only alts that I&#039;ve let languish for a while but that&#039;s because you can only run so many heroics a day before wanting to slit your wrists.

I really care a lot about my alts, going so far as to stress about their gear, get them specific titles and achievements and generally making sure that I could swap any one of them out for my main at any given time and not miss a beat.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve had an army of alts since late BC and they&#8217;ve benefited from the changes in Wrath greatly. I could probably tank and heal Icecrown10 on my paladin and my druid (as in, both characters could both tank and heal) and I could do great damage on my lock, mage and rogue. </p>
<p>My hunter and priest are the only alts that I&#8217;ve let languish for a while but that&#8217;s because you can only run so many heroics a day before wanting to slit your wrists.</p>
<p>I really care a lot about my alts, going so far as to stress about their gear, get them specific titles and achievements and generally making sure that I could swap any one of them out for my main at any given time and not miss a beat.</p>
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