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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://fallingleavesandwings.wordpress.com/2010/06/09/beware/#comment-1757</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2010 20:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While this kind of thing can get to be a pain. The only reproachable side to the story, is how he went about it. This kind of recruitment has been happening since long before any video game, and is, for some, the only way to get the kind of experienced members they&#039;re looking for. 

You might say its a underhanded thing to do, but only because you have yet to have to do it. Its the players choice, has not a thing to do with indecency or disloyalty, if the players don&#039;t want to go, they wont. If they do, they will.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While this kind of thing can get to be a pain. The only reproachable side to the story, is how he went about it. This kind of recruitment has been happening since long before any video game, and is, for some, the only way to get the kind of experienced members they&#8217;re looking for. </p>
<p>You might say its a underhanded thing to do, but only because you have yet to have to do it. Its the players choice, has not a thing to do with indecency or disloyalty, if the players don&#8217;t want to go, they wont. If they do, they will.</p>
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		<title>By: Zy</title>
		<link>http://fallingleavesandwings.wordpress.com/2010/06/09/beware/#comment-1739</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2010 19:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That guy was a dirtbag looking for fellow dirtbags IMO.  It&#039;s a sad and hateful thing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That guy was a dirtbag looking for fellow dirtbags IMO.  It&#8217;s a sad and hateful thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Beruthiel</title>
		<link>http://fallingleavesandwings.wordpress.com/2010/06/09/beware/#comment-1730</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Beruthiel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 00:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, the only thing that I can think of is that they are trying to push HM LK and perhaps are pushing a bit hard and attendance is drooping from that.  As I understand it, that is happening to a lot of guilds right now that are in that position.

However, while I empathize with the position that they may be in, I can&#039;t condone their recruiting methods.

Oddly enough, I believe I know exactly which guild you are referring to in first paragraph ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, the only thing that I can think of is that they are trying to push HM LK and perhaps are pushing a bit hard and attendance is drooping from that.  As I understand it, that is happening to a lot of guilds right now that are in that position.</p>
<p>However, while I empathize with the position that they may be in, I can&#8217;t condone their recruiting methods.</p>
<p>Oddly enough, I believe I know exactly which guild you are referring to in first paragraph <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Beruthiel</title>
		<link>http://fallingleavesandwings.wordpress.com/2010/06/09/beware/#comment-1729</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Beruthiel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 23:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am still a bit fired up at the audacity it takes a person to do it!  And I couldn&#039;t agree more, if your foundations are built on dis-loyalty...not exactly sure what you expect!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am still a bit fired up at the audacity it takes a person to do it!  And I couldn&#8217;t agree more, if your foundations are built on dis-loyalty&#8230;not exactly sure what you expect!</p>
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		<title>By: Beruthiel</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Beruthiel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 23:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Eep!  Two guilds on the same server.  I could see how that would be ripe with drama!

I guess I just don&#039;t understand the *huge* push for progression.  What use is there to say &quot;I got there first!&quot;.  As long as you get there, I think I&#039;d much rather take the journey with like minded people that I enjoy playing with :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eep!  Two guilds on the same server.  I could see how that would be ripe with drama!</p>
<p>I guess I just don&#8217;t understand the *huge* push for progression.  What use is there to say &#8220;I got there first!&#8221;.  As long as you get there, I think I&#8217;d much rather take the journey with like minded people that I enjoy playing with <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Beruthiel</title>
		<link>http://fallingleavesandwings.wordpress.com/2010/06/09/beware/#comment-1727</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Beruthiel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 23:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They really do need to improve the guild recruitment system.  It&#039;s very lackluster and difficult to use/get results from.

Man...you&#039;ve now get me wondering if I want to move our WoL private!  I can understand wanting to recruit talent but c&#039;mon.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They really do need to improve the guild recruitment system.  It&#8217;s very lackluster and difficult to use/get results from.</p>
<p>Man&#8230;you&#8217;ve now get me wondering if I want to move our WoL private!  I can understand wanting to recruit talent but c&#8217;mon.</p>
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		<title>By: Beruthiel</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Beruthiel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 23:52:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow...that sounds just awful!

We&#039;ve never encountered it before, or if we have none of our members have brought it up.  It&#039;s too bad that people think it&#039;s an OK thing to do :(]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8230;that sounds just awful!</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve never encountered it before, or if we have none of our members have brought it up.  It&#8217;s too bad that people think it&#8217;s an OK thing to do <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ellie</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ellie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 17:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a resident of the Sen&#039;jin server Alliance side, I find this disgusting behavior from any guild regardless of faction.  Considering their status on the server I don&#039;t see why they even need to poach people from other guilds/servers.  That&#039;s almost as bad as the guilds we&#039;ve heard about paying a player with the Kingslayer title to transfer and join them just so they can do hard mode ICC and then try to claim bragging rights that they are in hardmode.  

My guild may not be #1 on the server, but all our achievements are of our own hard work and we are a crazy band of misfits that struggled to fill our 25 mans and now carry a roster of about 28-30 and are now 9/12 (regular mode).  But we got there on our own efforts as a team.

Seems Mr Cnoctem there doesn&#039;t know the meaning of the word team or the true sense of the word guild if he&#039;s looking to tear good ones apart.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a resident of the Sen&#8217;jin server Alliance side, I find this disgusting behavior from any guild regardless of faction.  Considering their status on the server I don&#8217;t see why they even need to poach people from other guilds/servers.  That&#8217;s almost as bad as the guilds we&#8217;ve heard about paying a player with the Kingslayer title to transfer and join them just so they can do hard mode ICC and then try to claim bragging rights that they are in hardmode.  </p>
<p>My guild may not be #1 on the server, but all our achievements are of our own hard work and we are a crazy band of misfits that struggled to fill our 25 mans and now carry a roster of about 28-30 and are now 9/12 (regular mode).  But we got there on our own efforts as a team.</p>
<p>Seems Mr Cnoctem there doesn&#8217;t know the meaning of the word team or the true sense of the word guild if he&#8217;s looking to tear good ones apart.</p>
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		<title>By: Tam</title>
		<link>http://fallingleavesandwings.wordpress.com/2010/06/09/beware/#comment-1721</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tam]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 10:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[God almighty.  That&#039;s an immensly shitty thing to do - to say nothing of blitheringly *stupid* becuase how on earth would he expect to form a successful raiding team from a guild already foundering (since they are trying to recuit not individuals but the officer core of *other guilds) and the sort of soul-less immoral fuckwits who would cherry pick from their old guild in order to team up with a new one.

GAH!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God almighty.  That&#8217;s an immensly shitty thing to do &#8211; to say nothing of blitheringly *stupid* becuase how on earth would he expect to form a successful raiding team from a guild already foundering (since they are trying to recuit not individuals but the officer core of *other guilds) and the sort of soul-less immoral fuckwits who would cherry pick from their old guild in order to team up with a new one.</p>
<p>GAH!</p>
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		<title>By: Anabella</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anabella]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 08:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When something like that happened on our server (Dragonmaw EU), there was drama. OH BOY DRAMA. 

Long story short - leaders of Pacifism (alliance guild, top 100, recently transferred to Dragonmaw) contacted leaders of Fused has Fans (horde guild, relatively recent on Dmaw, also around top 100) and asked them to do just that - pick 15-20 best players and faction change.

And they did! And destroyed an established, long running guild that has survived server transfers, few years of summer slumps and such.

You should have seen the DRAMA! The fireworks! The accusations! What I didn&#039;t understand is the motive - both of those guilds were really well progressed, so it was like - wtf?

But, Dragonmaw has always been a destroyer of guilds - none of the progressed guilds that came to Dramamaw ever survived. Now we are waiting to see Pacifism go up in flames.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When something like that happened on our server (Dragonmaw EU), there was drama. OH BOY DRAMA. </p>
<p>Long story short &#8211; leaders of Pacifism (alliance guild, top 100, recently transferred to Dragonmaw) contacted leaders of Fused has Fans (horde guild, relatively recent on Dmaw, also around top 100) and asked them to do just that &#8211; pick 15-20 best players and faction change.</p>
<p>And they did! And destroyed an established, long running guild that has survived server transfers, few years of summer slumps and such.</p>
<p>You should have seen the DRAMA! The fireworks! The accusations! What I didn&#8217;t understand is the motive &#8211; both of those guilds were really well progressed, so it was like &#8211; wtf?</p>
<p>But, Dragonmaw has always been a destroyer of guilds &#8211; none of the progressed guilds that came to Dramamaw ever survived. Now we are waiting to see Pacifism go up in flames.</p>
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