Comments on: Will Dungeons Be A Pre-Req For Cataclysm Raiding?

By: Judaas

Judaas — Wed, 08 Sep 2010 20:27:21 +0000

Shiva, are you suggesting that tanks don’t want to run difficult dungeons multiple times. I remember attuning in my guild was more fun than everyone here seems to let on.

Just because shattered halls was hard, doesn’t mean you should only do it once for an attunement.

By: Shiva

Shiva — Mon, 02 Aug 2010 23:24:26 +0000

Think of the poor tanks! will someone think of the poor tanks! I think the reason Blizzard changed the paradigm is because of Shattered Halls, but not because it was hard or too hard.

But because of the tanks. Standard raid has what, 3 tanks in 25? most fights only require 2? A 5 man takes 1 tank, so to force every single raider in your 25-man to go through 5-mans to get up to 25 means your tanks are going to have to work double and triple overtime.

I sob warrior gets to run Heroic Shattered halls with 7-8 different groups.

By: Beruthiel

Beruthiel — Fri, 30 Jul 2010 15:33:34 +0000

I don’t know that I’d like to see a Heroic Shattered Halls again

The only downside about dungeon attunements, in my opinion, is the stress that it puts on your tanks and healers, who are in limited number. Your DPS can likely attune in one run, but your tanks and healers will have to help an entire raids worth of DPS through the attunements.

By: Beruthiel

Beruthiel — Fri, 30 Jul 2010 15:32:06 +0000

I definately think that dungeons helps you learn more about your play. In my opinion it’s a vital step in growing as a player, which many people are missing today.

By: Beruthiel

Beruthiel — Fri, 30 Jul 2010 15:31:04 +0000

BRD only took you 3 hours?!?! You must have gotten lucky with a kick ass group!

I remember 5 man Scholo taking 5 hours at release. FIVE!

While I don’t miss those super long dungeons, I do miss part of my gearing process for any toon requiring a visit to dungeons.

By: Beruthiel

Beruthiel — Fri, 30 Jul 2010 15:29:55 +0000

Hmmm…I know that there are dungeons as you level, but I don’t think I read about raid instances. I think raids would be too hard to coordinate while leveling.

By: Beruthiel

Beruthiel — Fri, 30 Jul 2010 15:29:07 +0000

I wouldn’t mind attunements like Karazhan that were done solely through individual play and 5 mans, but I think I would object to attunements for things like SSC/MH/BT. The downside with attunements like those is that it often makes it difficult to recruit without having to back-attune new members, which is often frustrating and time consuming.

I do hope I hope that there is some need for dungeons outside of farming them for badges.

By: Beruthiel

Beruthiel — Fri, 30 Jul 2010 15:26:42 +0000

I do hope that they introduce 5 mans with the raid tiers. I’ve always enjoyed dungeons

By: Ellie

Ellie — Thu, 29 Jul 2010 17:41:16 +0000

I like most am hoping to see more BC type dungeons, and where you have to work to get your gear from the dungeons rather than a badge grind or walking into Naxx with quest rewards on. I’d love to see more attunements again, and yes even dungeons like heroic Shattered Halls and heroic Shadow Labs (the banes of my BC existence). I just don’t want to ding 85 and walk into the first raid of the expansion and it be face roll to the end boss. Hopefully they bring back more of what most of us seem to love from Vanilla and BC.

By: Moonra

Moonra — Thu, 29 Jul 2010 07:03:57 +0000

It’s true that in Wotlk you could enter naxx in ‘good’ blues which was a bit boring if you ask me.

they did say in a blue post that gearing up in dungeons would be needed in cata and that the gearing curve would be a bit longer (I’m hoping this means that you’ll need good gear to start with raiding)

Like Jasyla said in a comment above, I also believe that completing a number of dungeons helps you raid-wise and thats what i’m going to do, I don’t raid until i’m ready to do so