I definitely think we are going to be certain to work in two. And all I can say is: My mana will be grateful!

Usually, you do have 2 raging spirits alive going into phase 3. Ideally, you try to get as many DoT’s on raging spirit #3, and then just kill #4 afterwards.

It’s interesting that you bring up BL timing, as it’s something we’ve been discussing as well. We had been saving for if a healer got picked up in a valk, and then using it in P4 if not. However, we’ve gotten comfortable enough that I don’t think we need to save it for a healer anymore.

Some want to give it a whirl at the start of the fight and then again when it comes back up in the final phase. I’m worried that using it at that start isn’t needed, as we are already transitioning with only two shamblers and I’m worried that we will transition into the final phase with 2 raging spirits still alive without lust in that phase. Thoughts? Would you still stick with using it in the transition into the valk phase?

I’m honestly not 100% certain how many valks we have been getting without referencing our parses, but it’s definitely good to know that benchmark!

The one concerning thing is the amount of time you have left on the enrage: 5 minutes is very little time. Our first kill came with 7 minutes left on the enrage when we were going down to the first Frostmourne room.

Just to make sure you’re hitting the benchmarks:
– You absolutely cannot get a 3rd Shambling Horror.
– You really *shouldn’t* kill the 5th Valk’yr.
– You absolutely cannot get a 6th Valk’yr.

We found it extremely helpful to pop Heroism at the start of phase 2. It will shave seconds off of phase 1, but phase 2 is really where the damage counts. Being able to cut out an entire Valk’yr wave saves a lot of time. Killing the raging spirit faster gets you more time on Lich King. You’ll still get a second heroism at the very end of the fight.

Tank soaking is probably your best bet if you have several melee. If you’re a raid consisting of entirely ranged, however, you might want to consider actually killing them. Leave one person to sit on the boss and use everyone else to knock out the Vile Spirits.

For soaking the vile spirits you are going to need 2 alternating soakers (always 2 soak phases before you get sucked into the sword) that can use some damage-reducing ability every 1m20s (1m30s maybe but its pushing it).

For your comp you don’t have many options. Here is a possible soaking order:

1. Pally-> Divine Protection or Shield (2m Forbearance)
2. Bear-> Barkskin + 4p T10 (Enrage)
3. Warrior-> Shield Wall
4. Bear-> Barkskin + 4p T10 (Enrage)
5. Pally-> Divine Shield (2m Forbearance)
6. Bear-> Barkskin + 4p T10 (Enrage)
7. Rogue-> Pain Suppression + Cloak of Shadows/Feint
8. Bear-> Barkskin + 4p T10 (Enrage)
Enrage will probably kill you if you hit this point

For the bear soaking times you can have your OT taunt LK if the damage is still high. In the above order the pally could taunt the LK as you guys are running him to the other side.

Offtopic -> the LK fight is really the only fight your party should be specing for in all of ICC (I’m guessing everything else has probably been on farm for a while). If mana is remotely an issue, you guys have 3 dps that have specs that provide replenishment. It will lower individual dps by a little but if it means more output from the rest of the group it will be worth it.

Good luck!

I will talk with Brade about working out his cooldowns for soul reaper, and talk with our priest about healing through them.

We are definitely going to be changing position and strategy to mirror the tips that both you and Aven have offered! And we will work out soakers, I think we have enough potential candidates that we should be able to get through it. Also the increase to DPS with this will be extremely nice! I’m sure we will defile ourselves and blow ourselves up a time or two before we get it down, but all of this information looks very promising!

Thank you! (And if we get stuck, I will be sure to shoot out an email!).

I definitely think that we need to change up how we are handling everything up top after reading the advice I’m getting here! Thanks so much!