Comments on: Quick Thoughts on the Resto PTR Changes (4.0.6)

By: What Trees Need to Know About 4.0.6 | Tree Heals Go Woosh

What Trees Need to Know About 4.0.6 | Tree Heals Go Woosh — Mon, 07 Feb 2011 04:09:12 +0000

[...] up on 3 or more targets (when raid healing is high), so that we get a haste buff to Nourish. Beru has calculated that this should bring Nourish down to about a 1.5 second cast time with 3/3 points, allowing us to [...]

By: Misohorni

Misohorni — Thu, 13 Jan 2011 21:12:39 +0000

I see the OOC nerf hurting us a bit but the overall effect being a decent buff. Not sure what Blizz was thinking lowering the proc rate. Druids already fall below Pallies and priests in HPS.I have actually never fallen below a Shaman though Kupix..think they need more work than we do at the moment.

I am at 351 ilvl now and have no problems healing heroics and staying around 60%+ mana. TOL (3 minutes) and Tranq (8 minutes) are our only two group healing CDs. The change to OOC procs doesn’t effect how we heal with TOL since when we have 5 LBs rolling on the group OOC proc rate won’t change much and might even increase depending on the mechanic. All in all as with most patches it is a wait and see. I’m pretty sure we will need to change our current “rotation” a bit to be the most mana efficient we can be.

By: Kupix

Kupix — Sun, 09 Jan 2011 18:51:57 +0000

faster casting of nourish while 3 rejuv’s active will be nice (still 1 sec cast of nourish during WotLK was better and resto druid was able to heal main tank on raids). cheaper rejuv will be Great! but druids still lack of BIG(!) healing spell, HT is not enough. in my opinion, Blizz should better boost “broccoli of like form”, because even with instant cast of regrowth and LB on more targets, we are way behind shammy and pally healers.
privately im still waiting till druids became useful again

By: Kupix

Kupix — Sun, 09 Jan 2011 18:41:24 +0000

i think, this changes doesn’t help too much. druids still lack of big healing spell (HT is not enough). faster nourish with 3 or more rejuv’s will be nice, but it’s still s@itty (1 sec cast during WotLK was great and i was able to heal main tank on raid’s).
for me it would be great to see “broccoli of life form” be much better boosted (for example, rejuvenation active while broccoli active or something like that).
i’m still waiting for something bigger, now i rarely heal normal’s and not thinking about hc’s
kupix

By: Lars Hedemann

Lars Hedemann — Sun, 09 Jan 2011 11:56:15 +0000

I fell these changes are pretty much spot on, except for the OoC procs, the nourish change especially. We NEED a quick heal, and we have none atm. I still feel “naked” when healing, because we don not have this quick heal now, but the change to Nourish will be good. The rejuv change won’t have us back at the Wotlk rejuv spam, but you can now afford to have it on the tanks and a couple of DPS’er without running oom. I think these changes are all for the better. Agree that we still need a buff to Efflo for it to be viable, but I am sure that will be redesigned too later on…

By: Treetard

Treetard — Sat, 08 Jan 2011 05:12:52 +0000

Ever since i saw the patchnotes, I’ve been angry about the change to empowered touch. Regrowth refreshing lifebloom, as mentioned above, pretty much eliminates controlled blooms. There should be at least 1 direct healing spell which doesn’t refresh lifebloom, otherwise I think they should just remove the bloom from LB and nerf the mana cost down to nothing. I’d rather not spend mana on a mechanic which is now even less controllable than before. The ONLY time i see this change benefiting resto is if the RG portion of the talent only workes during ToL. Any other way and ill be using these 2 talent points for NB

By: Ihra

Ihra — Fri, 07 Jan 2011 18:19:21 +0000

I am really happy that we’re getting a regrowth buff. PvP crimps your mana efficiency anyway, so I’m used to playing with a low mana bar, but trying to keep people up with nourish and HT has so far been hellish; I get kicked out of it almost every other time. I’m glad that a) our fast heal is being buffed, and b) that we can use rejuv to prep a different fast(er) heal. This should help give us a decent leg up in PvP, for which I am grateful

By: Jen

Jen — Fri, 07 Jan 2011 16:47:47 +0000

That’s a good point I hadn’t thought about… I did use Regrowth in situations like that. The bloom is a LOT of HP (about 20% on most tanks I’ve seen) so letting LB expire gets them up to a decent amount, more than the lonely HT I’d be able to cast in 2.2 seconds. I sometimes preferred to Regrowth the tank (a bit of heal and a bit of HoT, to make sure he doesn’t fall over in a sec), HT the group, and enjoy the “free” heal on him from LB while I got everyone else healthy again. If all my spells refresh LB, then controlled blooms are pretty much out of the picture… and I was really starting to enjoy them.

By: Jen

Jen — Fri, 07 Jan 2011 16:42:30 +0000

Overall I’m happy with the changes, since my gear will only get better (hence less mana problems), but raid healing will probably still be difficult (hence yay fast Nourish will still be useful).

By: Beruthiel

Beruthiel — Fri, 07 Jan 2011 15:51:29 +0000

Just because you learned to heal under a different healing paradigm, doesn’t mean you can’t adjust and learn under a new one now

Healing is just different now, and more interactive, I think.

You will still get OoC procs from Lifebloom, you’ll just get fewer than you had before. If you are having trouble with heroics, what does your gear look like? How much spirit do you have? How are you prioritizing your spells? There is probably a different underlying problem that we can solve that doesn’t revolve solely around being OoM all the time