Comments on: Monday Musings – Up or Down Edition!

By: Beruthiel

Beruthiel — Wed, 26 Jan 2011 19:34:25 +0000

We raid roughly 15 hours a week during progression (and that is pretty much always for us!) over four raid nights. We talked about cutting back to three, but we offer a good bit of flexibility in our attendance and people didn’t want to see that go away.

By: Beruthiel

Beruthiel — Wed, 26 Jan 2011 19:30:01 +0000

We always stacked up. We ended up starting down and working up

By: Beruthiel

Beruthiel — Wed, 26 Jan 2011 19:28:54 +0000

We did end up starting down on our kill, but about 2/3 of the way up all went to the ceiling and started going down. As the clouds dispersed below us, and all of the new clouds were above us, it ended up giving us a lot of room to work

By: Beruthiel

Beruthiel — Wed, 26 Jan 2011 19:11:56 +0000

We did end up starting down and moving up. But at a certain point we decided to fly up and start moving down to let the clouds below us dissipate and give us mor room.

By: Beruthiel

Beruthiel — Wed, 26 Jan 2011 18:54:22 +0000

Dend – wtf am I going to get quotes for the front page now?!?! Clearly you will just have to email them to me!

That being said, good luck with everything!

By: Jen

Jen — Wed, 26 Jan 2011 14:12:53 +0000

I don’t have any insight to share, but I have a curiosity: how many hours do you raid per week? I keep seeing people who downed 8 or 9 or 10 bosses in two weeks and I boggle. Are we just *that* bad or is it a matter of raiding hours? (I’m in a fairly casual guild that raids about 9h per week… and we’ve only killed one boss in our first reset.)

By: adgamorix

adgamorix — Tue, 25 Jan 2011 21:26:35 +0000

We go top down, with one person being responsible for calling out the forming clouds which you can see just before the lightning strikes. We also stack up, with the lightning rod person strafing out of the raid – just makes it easier.

By: Jurik

Jurik — Tue, 25 Jan 2011 01:12:50 +0000

In our 10 man kill of Al’Akir we started at the top and went down. But I can see your reasoning in favoring going up.

Our 25 man attempts, on the other hand, were disastrous. The 25 man raid just has too many people who aren’t responsible enough to their own safety and performance, a hang-over from Wrath I am sure.

I found only Council and Al’Akir so far are equal or more challenging in 25 than 10, and we are 11/12 in 10 and 10/12 in 25.

By: Virile

Virile — Mon, 24 Jan 2011 23:34:51 +0000

The top/down strategy has always made more sense to me for a few reasons.

1. It’s simply easier and more idiot proof to start at the top rather than the bottom. You hit a hard cap at the top so there is no guessing whether or not you are at the correct height or not. If you screw up at the bottom, you die.
2. Because of number 1 the dps can start putting out damage quicker since they aren’t so concerned with their height.
3. The knockdown and back effect. Sure you can get out of it after a tick, but no damage is better than a little damage. Then you also have to re-adjust again which burns more time and dps.

By: Windsoar

Windsoar — Mon, 24 Jan 2011 22:33:36 +0000

We opted for the bottom up strategy I think for many of the same reasons. We found clumping helped people have a better idea as to the relative “height” of the group, and at some point, you must decide to brave the winds and do a free-fall dive back for the bottom.

The major problem we had with the bottom up strategy was not free-falling into the bottom and zapping ourselves to death!