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[...] A Hasty Experiment by Beruthiel at Falling Leaves and Wings talks about Dark Intent (mm, haste), which apparently should not go to Resto Druids. It’s a very informative post, especially for Warlocks and Druids. [...]

By: Od

Od — Mon, 28 Feb 2011 18:47:03 +0000

If you’re able to get dark intent + 5%, the correct haste cut off would be 1573 right?

By: Elfindale

Elfindale — Wed, 23 Feb 2011 07:32:26 +0000

I can’t wait to see how this turns out. I am anxiously awaiting your part 2 post.

By: Keeva

Keeva — Wed, 23 Feb 2011 05:16:06 +0000

Ultimately it should be going to DPS, but so far we’re not having problems due to low DPS – that extra 4-5k isn’t going to make or break. On the other hand, during really hairy raid damage, the added output from me will be huge. Eg jumping up on pillars on Nef.

However – I am considering looking like a noob and max reforging/regemming to get to the 2005 under my own steam, though it will be a stretch. The reason for this is that for the cost of a small amount of regen – something like 130 spirit – I would effectively be giving a 5k DPS boost to the raid, by relinquishing my DI.

But.. that would mean gemming 100% Quick Amberjewels and looking reeeeeeeeeally noob Literally all of my gems would be Quicks, and that would get me to 2016 Haste.

By: Beruthiel

Beruthiel — Wed, 23 Feb 2011 05:01:00 +0000

Our raids currently run with (at most) two warlocks (did I mention we are recruiting a warlock?!). We also run with 2 shadow priests, a moonkin and 3 fire mages. All of whom I think can do more with Dark Intent than I can.

The reason that I strongly encourage Dark Intent going out to your DPS is because Blizzard has (poorly, in my opinion) balanced a lot of these classes around having Dark Intent. It’s really, really huge for them – and there is nowhere else that they will get the same buff and nothing else will impact their DPS as much as having this one buff.

I could certainly see giving it to healers if you are learning content and your healers are struggling – but I would also absolutely ask the question of if a fight was shorter from more DPS, would your healers be struggling as much?

When push comes to shove, I still maintain my position that for most raids it’s probably better served on a DPS class than a healer

By: Beruthiel

Beruthiel — Wed, 23 Feb 2011 04:57:28 +0000

You and me both!

By: Beruthiel

Beruthiel — Wed, 23 Feb 2011 04:57:12 +0000

But do you *need* his Dark Intent?

I did have to wait out getting the helm from Nef and purchasing the moonkin legs to reach the breakpoint.

By: Beruthiel

Beruthiel — Wed, 23 Feb 2011 04:56:16 +0000

I didn’t down grade anything – but I worry about the day when a bracer upgrade *finally* drops for me! Hopefully I’ll have worked out a neck by that point

Tomorrow night will be my first raid with it, so I’ll see how it turns out!

By: Keeva

Keeva — Tue, 22 Feb 2011 22:50:58 +0000

I have a dedicated Warlock (aren’t I special? ), and reforged to get the extra WG tick. It makes a pretty huge difference in 25mans – I am keeping up with (or passing) people in full epics while I am lagging behind in blues.

We often have 4 or 5 locks, and the DIs are shared around between resto druids and shadow priests as a priority. While nobody can ignore the DPS boost you get from giving it to a damage dealer, we’re really not feeling that DPS is the limiting factor at the moment – so that’s why they still partly go to healers.

I would say that it’s more valuable going to the healers when encounters are new, healers are learning/gearing, and players are still adjusting to the mechanics and may be taking more damage than they should be. Once things tighten up, healers get their rhythm (and some gear), and people stop taking unnecessary damage, it could probably be taken off the healers.

If I lost my DI, I could reforge with my current gear and get to 2005, but it would require a few haste gems and losing a small amount of Intellect. But with the results I’ve been getting post-switch, that is well worth it.

By: Ttrinity

Ttrinity — Tue, 22 Feb 2011 20:10:17 +0000

I am very interested to see part two of haste. I am debating if balancing stats or going to larger mana and haste will win out. With all the changes almost weekly from Blizzard in patches and hot fixes, I don’t think healing is where it should be with the game designers either.