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By: Disorient

Disorient — Mon, 07 Mar 2011 14:37:28 +0000

If anything, LFD has helped guilds grow stronger. I’m hearing from all ends that people prefer to run with guildmates and refuse to do a completely random pug. I’m not sure that was the intention of the tool, but it’s something positive you can get from it.

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The Return of the Link Round Up! « Me, Myself… And All Of Them — Wed, 02 Mar 2011 17:24:46 +0000

[...] also talks about CC, tanking, and why they won’t tank anymore. I haven’t had any major CC debacle happen to me before, but I haven’t been tanking. [...]

By: Syl

Syl — Fri, 25 Feb 2011 13:34:32 +0000

The story of many tanks really Beruthiel, sad to hear you made such a lousy experience yourself. the self-entitlement and arrogance some people are displaying in randoms, is still baffling me, even though I wrote a lenghty post myself of why I hate healing PuGs myself. it’s just hard to understand what’s going on in these minds and unfortunately they ruin it for everyone else. tanks stay away from bad pugs – pugs get even worse because there are no tanks, and so forth.

I still think the whole LFG tool was the worst decision they ever made, long-term speaking.

By: Reverend Zor

Reverend Zor — Fri, 25 Feb 2011 00:47:35 +0000

I couldn’t agree more with you post…

Tank queues and is abused one to many times by random idiots; Tank becomes cynical and jaded, then stops using the LFD system to queue with PUGs, instead choose to only run with people they trust (friends and guildmates).

At least this is what happened with me.

By: Zinn

Zinn — Thu, 24 Feb 2011 21:48:06 +0000

It reminds me of when I did Stonecore some week ago on my lowbie dk. I always make sure the healer is ready for the first pull, because if I don’t I get yelled at for pulling too fast. The mage gets restless and ninjapulls, mobs are everywhere, healer goes oom. So for the next pull I yet again wait for the healer to be ready. Mage ninja pulls again, this time we wipe because the healer had no mana. I thought everyone would lash out on the mage, but no. I get the blame. Needless to say I didn’t stay very long in that group.

By: Saga

Saga — Thu, 24 Feb 2011 10:09:41 +0000

I used to love tanking and had 3 tanking specced characters back in Wrath, but I haven’t tanked once in Cataclysm because the general attitude in PUGs frigthen me.

Lately I’ve been leveling a Paladin healer and I’m starting to do some PUGs on her, but even when I as the healer suggest CC because the mobs hit hard on the bigger packs people either ignore me or .. well, actually they mainly just ignore me.

And that’s the tanks ignoring me for the most part and just charging ahead.

I think we all (healer, dps, tank) need to get better at using CC and remember that we’re not in Wrath anymore and we’re also not on our Heroic geared 85s who probably can do the instance on HC without CC.

That’s another thing I don’t quite understand. Sure, with a full guild group we CAN do Heroics without CC – but do you really save that much time on it? You generally don’t kill things faster with AoE (unless you have the few classes who still do good AoE) and you save the healer’s mana so they don’t have to drink if less things are beating on the tank.

I’m starting to feel scared about healing too now, but I think I just need to keep pushing forward and try. Maybe eventually I’ll dare to try tanking again as well. For now, after a few bad experiences, I’d prefer healing tanks from the guild.

By: Giselle

Giselle — Thu, 24 Feb 2011 06:12:11 +0000

Although, to be fair, I’ve very seldom seen anyone be that douchebaggy to the tank, especially h 5 mans. (And I’ve seen quite a few arrogant, bad-mannered tanks who never got called on it.) This is because the DPS queue is 45 minutes and the healer queue is 9 minutes. Nobody wants to wait more after that. (The DPS anyway.)

By: Giselle

Giselle — Thu, 24 Feb 2011 06:04:54 +0000

What a terrible group. You should have kicked the healer or left for a better one. I can’t believe you suffered through the whole instance with that.

By: Voltie

Voltie — Thu, 24 Feb 2011 02:13:48 +0000

I feel in control while healing in pugs as I know what I am doing and am confident at it but when I tried to learn to tank I just wilted under the aggression from the assholes in lfd.

So scratch one tank.

By: Stubborn

Stubborn — Wed, 23 Feb 2011 23:59:37 +0000

I feel your pain, sir, I truly do. I was tanking on my Paladin when Cata hit, with all its strange changes to play style and dungeon speed. I would call for DPS to be on target and to CC appropriately and would receive similar responses. The difference was that I was with 2 other people, so when we had someone who was badly behaved, we just kicked them. Now, of course, Blizz has made that harder (thanks Blizz – well played), and anyway I started leveling a new toon.

Keep sticking through it; go with only guild groups, do whatever it takes, but don’t let jerks push you out of doing something you like.