In general, I have an official and unofficial position about contested items Officially, I’d argue with anyone to make sure hybrids do get to roll on spirit, I think it’s only fair. Unofficially, I think it’s polite for them to pass for healers and I’d be a bit upset if they didn’t at least ask. (The RL disagrees with me and she thinks spirit = healer priority… we sometimes argue about it, but thankfully we never needed to make a decision.)

Honestly, I’d consider that trinket to fell primarily in the DPS category. There are better options for healers, and the language on the trinket seems to make it clear it’s a DPS trinket. At least that’s how I read it!

Me thinks you need to either charge for OS or add in the EPGP cost for MS later as you see them using it for MS. And explain to the offenders gaining GP that MS is MS even when it’s cheated around OS.

Personally, our looting with EPGP when MS v. OS (or even sidegrade MS) comes up, there’s a lot of Vent activity on what the roller is clearly going to use it for (including hitting the wrong button), and points get easily (& publicly) sorted out right there.

For some reason, PUGs like to argue that Sorrowsong (Lost City) is a healer trinket as well as a DPS trinket. Does early healing (~346 ilvl) favor mastery a lot? Because the other equip use definitely talks about damaging a target to proc it. Or do healers whip out a Moonfire or Mind Spike or something below 35% just to proc it?

*honestly curious* I always thought it was purely a DPS trinket, but popular opinion (including some in my guild) has confused me.

I’m not entirely sure where it falls for the other classes, honestly, outside of our resto shaman seeking it also.

The “dps = 2nd prio on spirit” would be a nice consideration; I know, when warlocks used spirit, I’d pass my roll if the healy priest also wanted it and it was a substantial upgrade for them (if it’s a sidegrade or minor upgrade, pshaw, I’m rolling!). Not a requirement, but it does make nice with the healing team.

And naw, I don’t hate the weapon. I hate the stupid worm who won’t drop it when I can get it.

We allow our spirit using dps to roll on spirit items, since those items are valuable to them as well. In general EPGP means that caster dps don’t roll on spirit items unless those items are very useful to them, because they don’t want to take the hit to their totals. And, to be honest, I’ve picked up a few non spirit pieces for the sake of haste.

The discussion then becomes if healers should get preference over dps, but that one is a little more hairy. Hopefully the individual loot systems are set up to handle that.

In this expansion, with the way that loot tables have been set, I feel that the devs made very clear statement that they wanted to make spirit gear valuable (and utilized) to those hybrid classes. I think it’s important to recognize that there may be certain items that are shared, and that raid teams should be open to the possibility that BiS items may be the same regardless of role.