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		<title>By: Beruthiel</title>
		<link>http://fallingleavesandwings.wordpress.com/2011/07/05/who-defines-fun/#comment-4431</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Beruthiel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jul 2011 16:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh wow, I had no idea there were patch problems elsewhere!  I was quite frankly shocked to come home and log in on Tuesday without having a single server crash :)  I hope it settles down some for you!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh wow, I had no idea there were patch problems elsewhere!  I was quite frankly shocked to come home and log in on Tuesday without having a single server crash <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   I hope it settles down some for you!</p>
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		<title>By: Beruthiel</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Beruthiel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jul 2011 16:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I do think there is something to your observation about people needing to defend their preferred raiding choice.  It is something that I do see a lot on both fronts.  It always confuses me on why one always has to be &quot;harder&quot; or &quot;better&quot;  and why they just can&#039;t be &quot;different&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do think there is something to your observation about people needing to defend their preferred raiding choice.  It is something that I do see a lot on both fronts.  It always confuses me on why one always has to be &#8220;harder&#8221; or &#8220;better&#8221;  and why they just can&#8217;t be &#8220;different&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Beruthiel</title>
		<link>http://fallingleavesandwings.wordpress.com/2011/07/05/who-defines-fun/#comment-4429</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Beruthiel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jul 2011 16:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[pffft!  If he was so wise, he wouldn&#039;t have tried to be rational with me while I was stomping around the kitchen with pointy objects! ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pffft!  If he was so wise, he wouldn&#8217;t have tried to be rational with me while I was stomping around the kitchen with pointy objects! <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Beruthiel</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Beruthiel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jul 2011 16:27:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sometimes I wonder if it&#039;s insecurities that drive comments like the ones I saw.  I mean, it was my own insecurities that drove this post, I don&#039;t think it&#039;s unreasonable to think that the converse could be true.  Honestly, I just don&#039;t understand why people can&#039;t just be happy for someone elses success without needing to put down or justify their own success in relation to that other person&#039;s.  It just baffles me to no end.

Then again, I always try to be supportive of everyone&#039;s achievements.  Because no matter when or how they get done, they are still achievements and important to the person accomplishing them and that deserves celebration.  Nothing gets me fired up faster than to see someone else dogging another&#039;s success.  I guess it&#039;s just one of those things I feel I need to put on my armor to defend!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes I wonder if it&#8217;s insecurities that drive comments like the ones I saw.  I mean, it was my own insecurities that drove this post, I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s unreasonable to think that the converse could be true.  Honestly, I just don&#8217;t understand why people can&#8217;t just be happy for someone elses success without needing to put down or justify their own success in relation to that other person&#8217;s.  It just baffles me to no end.</p>
<p>Then again, I always try to be supportive of everyone&#8217;s achievements.  Because no matter when or how they get done, they are still achievements and important to the person accomplishing them and that deserves celebration.  Nothing gets me fired up faster than to see someone else dogging another&#8217;s success.  I guess it&#8217;s just one of those things I feel I need to put on my armor to defend!</p>
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		<title>By: Beruthiel</title>
		<link>http://fallingleavesandwings.wordpress.com/2011/07/05/who-defines-fun/#comment-4427</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Beruthiel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jul 2011 16:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think it&#039;s fantasitc!

Good Luck to you with your continued adventures!  And don&#039;t let that pesky Nef stand in your way :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s fantasitc!</p>
<p>Good Luck to you with your continued adventures!  And don&#8217;t let that pesky Nef stand in your way <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Beruthiel</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Beruthiel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jul 2011 16:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are certainly aspects of 10 man raiding that are more challenging, for sure.  I can certainly tell you that if we had more than one death in an early phase of those Rag attempts it was a wipe.  I would certainly have to agree that a kill is a kill, and the value of that kill should be set by the person who earned the kill.

Much like life, it is very hard to feel comfortable in your own skin and to shake off what other people think.  It&#039;s something that I&#039;ve gotten better at over the years, but it&#039;s certainly still something that I constantly remind myself still needs work!  I&#039;m fairly comfortable with myself - but sometimes it doesn&#039;t take much to make me second guess something.  Of course I then have to write posts like this to remind myself where I want to be.  :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are certainly aspects of 10 man raiding that are more challenging, for sure.  I can certainly tell you that if we had more than one death in an early phase of those Rag attempts it was a wipe.  I would certainly have to agree that a kill is a kill, and the value of that kill should be set by the person who earned the kill.</p>
<p>Much like life, it is very hard to feel comfortable in your own skin and to shake off what other people think.  It&#8217;s something that I&#8217;ve gotten better at over the years, but it&#8217;s certainly still something that I constantly remind myself still needs work!  I&#8217;m fairly comfortable with myself &#8211; but sometimes it doesn&#8217;t take much to make me second guess something.  Of course I then have to write posts like this to remind myself where I want to be.  <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Beruthiel</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jul 2011 16:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He never dropped it.   Two bloody years of doing that boss every day he&#039;s availalbe.  I really wish they&#039;d just make it so that you can purchase it with those damn burning blossoms!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He never dropped it.   Two bloody years of doing that boss every day he&#8217;s availalbe.  I really wish they&#8217;d just make it so that you can purchase it with those damn burning blossoms!</p>
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		<title>By: Beruthiel</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Beruthiel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jul 2011 16:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All in all, I&#039;m very glad we made the choice that we did.  It was the right choice for us - which is really what is important, I think!

Honestly, I would almost even wager that there are aspects of the 10 man encounter that are more challenging than the 25.  Like having 40% of your raid (over half when you take out the two tanks!) constantly dealing with meteor balls!  Granted, the seed phase in 25s is a bit tricker to manage.  So perhaps it evens out.  Either way, it was a fun encounter and I&#039;m looking forward to working it again.

You&#039;d think that with all things being equal, the 10s vs 25s thing would have stopped being a big deal.  Unfortunately, it still is.  And people constantly defend their raid style/choice and it feels like both sides will have an argument that their raid preferrence is &quot;harder&quot;.  I just don&#039;t get why people can&#039;t accpet that it&#039;s just different.  There are challenges both raid styles face, they are just different challenges.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All in all, I&#8217;m very glad we made the choice that we did.  It was the right choice for us &#8211; which is really what is important, I think!</p>
<p>Honestly, I would almost even wager that there are aspects of the 10 man encounter that are more challenging than the 25.  Like having 40% of your raid (over half when you take out the two tanks!) constantly dealing with meteor balls!  Granted, the seed phase in 25s is a bit tricker to manage.  So perhaps it evens out.  Either way, it was a fun encounter and I&#8217;m looking forward to working it again.</p>
<p>You&#8217;d think that with all things being equal, the 10s vs 25s thing would have stopped being a big deal.  Unfortunately, it still is.  And people constantly defend their raid style/choice and it feels like both sides will have an argument that their raid preferrence is &#8220;harder&#8221;.  I just don&#8217;t get why people can&#8217;t accpet that it&#8217;s just different.  There are challenges both raid styles face, they are just different challenges.</p>
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		<title>By: Beruthiel</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Beruthiel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jul 2011 16:05:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think it was predicted fairly early on that the 25s crowd would want to lean on &quot;real&quot; progression being done in 25s.  But I think that&#039;s so silly.  Progression is progression no matter what format you are in, or when you achieve your goals.  It makes me so mad when I see people look down on others progression because it&#039;s not how/when they did it.  I mean, is it really hard to recognize that different strokes for different folks is OK and that everyone has different goals?  ARGH!

I agree with you.  It does make me want to bang heads against walls :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it was predicted fairly early on that the 25s crowd would want to lean on &#8220;real&#8221; progression being done in 25s.  But I think that&#8217;s so silly.  Progression is progression no matter what format you are in, or when you achieve your goals.  It makes me so mad when I see people look down on others progression because it&#8217;s not how/when they did it.  I mean, is it really hard to recognize that different strokes for different folks is OK and that everyone has different goals?  ARGH!</p>
<p>I agree with you.  It does make me want to bang heads against walls <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Deppi</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jul 2011 01:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Hey, how were we to know that this would be the smoothest patch WoW has seen in 6 years?&quot;

Come raid in our hemisphere, where we&#039;ve had restarts of either or both of world and instance servers every night (but one) in the middle of prime raiding time -10pm, since 4.2. And of course, the plentiful FL trash respawns after the restart. And you can be sure that of a starting 25, at least a couple of them mysteriously won&#039;t make it back on when the server comes up. :(

I&#039;m open to trying new sorts of fun, but this isn&#039;t it.

(And you worry way, way too much about what other folks think. You are AMAZING and responsible for your own happiness - let the car drive by.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Hey, how were we to know that this would be the smoothest patch WoW has seen in 6 years?&#8221;</p>
<p>Come raid in our hemisphere, where we&#8217;ve had restarts of either or both of world and instance servers every night (but one) in the middle of prime raiding time -10pm, since 4.2. And of course, the plentiful FL trash respawns after the restart. And you can be sure that of a starting 25, at least a couple of them mysteriously won&#8217;t make it back on when the server comes up. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;m open to trying new sorts of fun, but this isn&#8217;t it.</p>
<p>(And you worry way, way too much about what other folks think. You are AMAZING and responsible for your own happiness &#8211; let the car drive by.)</p>
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