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	<title>Comments on: A Very Preliminary Look at the Resto Druid MoP Talent and Ability Changes</title>
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	<description>My Thoughts on Healing, Raiding, and being a Resto Druid</description>
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		<title>By: Algorython/Howlinwolf</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Algorython/Howlinwolf]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Apr 2012 04:21:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s not snotty when you&#039;re directly addressing my point, Muriac. :-)  I really did mean that it&#039;s interesting to see that something that works as well as it does at normal levels breaks down at the heroic levels.  I didn&#039;t mean to imply that Beru doesn&#039;t know what she&#039;s doing.

6/8 Normal now, BTW.  We accidentally one-shotted Warhamster as if we knew what we were doing, which was a little problematic for us leadery sorts, as we&#039;d never even asked our people to study the Spine fight, expecting to spend a few weeks on the gunship.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not snotty when you&#8217;re directly addressing my point, Muriac. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   I really did mean that it&#8217;s interesting to see that something that works as well as it does at normal levels breaks down at the heroic levels.  I didn&#8217;t mean to imply that Beru doesn&#8217;t know what she&#8217;s doing.</p>
<p>6/8 Normal now, BTW.  We accidentally one-shotted Warhamster as if we knew what we were doing, which was a little problematic for us leadery sorts, as we&#8217;d never even asked our people to study the Spine fight, expecting to spend a few weeks on the gunship.</p>
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		<title>By: sephyron</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sephyron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2012 15:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The 8 sec dispell CD is implemented on all dispell effects&quot; for correctnes sake should probably be &quot;The 8 sec dispell CD is supposed to be implemented on all dispell effects before MoP release&quot;   =)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The 8 sec dispell CD is implemented on all dispell effects&#8221; for correctnes sake should probably be &#8220;The 8 sec dispell CD is supposed to be implemented on all dispell effects before MoP release&#8221;   =)</p>
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		<title>By: Muriac</title>
		<link>http://fallingleavesandwings.wordpress.com/2012/03/27/a-very-preliminary-look-at-the-resto-druid-mop-talent-and-ability-changes/#comment-6895</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Muriac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2012 06:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m 6/8 hc, on my resto druid main, and it&#039;s really a different game alltogether. I hate to sound like a snotty elitist or even worse, a bad pop/rnb song, but there&#039;s weaknesses to the druid that only show when you push it to the limit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m 6/8 hc, on my resto druid main, and it&#8217;s really a different game alltogether. I hate to sound like a snotty elitist or even worse, a bad pop/rnb song, but there&#8217;s weaknesses to the druid that only show when you push it to the limit.</p>
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		<title>By: Muriac</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Muriac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2012 05:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Druids don&#039;t look too good this expansion, and i&#039;m one of the few druids who love to mix it up by using all my classes abilities, having bound all my feral and balance abilities aswell as resto ones, and i get to use them once in a while too. 

But i&#039;m a healer, you know? And i look at resto shammies this xp, and with their instant riptide glyph, their ascendance form, and tranq totem, in addition to having the strongest single target heals in the game? I don&#039;t know if i can justify my hc raiding existence to my raidleader next xp. Why bring me when a shaman can do it all better, is what it feels like. 

Either way, i&#039;ve made it my mission to beat the odds, and if we do turn out to stink too much for mop, i&#039;ll welcome the chance to roll a monk healer. I&#039;d miss my druid, and be sadface while doing it though.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Druids don&#8217;t look too good this expansion, and i&#8217;m one of the few druids who love to mix it up by using all my classes abilities, having bound all my feral and balance abilities aswell as resto ones, and i get to use them once in a while too. </p>
<p>But i&#8217;m a healer, you know? And i look at resto shammies this xp, and with their instant riptide glyph, their ascendance form, and tranq totem, in addition to having the strongest single target heals in the game? I don&#8217;t know if i can justify my hc raiding existence to my raidleader next xp. Why bring me when a shaman can do it all better, is what it feels like. </p>
<p>Either way, i&#8217;ve made it my mission to beat the odds, and if we do turn out to stink too much for mop, i&#8217;ll welcome the chance to roll a monk healer. I&#8217;d miss my druid, and be sadface while doing it though.</p>
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		<title>By: Beruthiel</title>
		<link>http://fallingleavesandwings.wordpress.com/2012/03/27/a-very-preliminary-look-at-the-resto-druid-mop-talent-and-ability-changes/#comment-6892</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Beruthiel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2012 23:49:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Odd, in beta my dispel does NOT Have a CD currently.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Odd, in beta my dispel does NOT Have a CD currently.</p>
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		<title>By: sephyron</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sephyron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2012 21:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While i have only tried the 2 first MoP instances since that is all that we have had available in the beta so far i have to say resto feelt quite good, healing mushrooms is a bit iffy but aslong as you know when the damage will come and have a pre determend stack point they are quite nice.

While i think Natures Swiftness will probably be prefered in raids Cenarion Ward is atleast in 5 mans a nice heal with its uses.
Force of nature isn&#039;t exactly the embodyment of intelligence but atleast all three of them spamheal for their entire duration.

The last tire is a bit lackluster for every spec, Disentanglement is a nice self heal and Heart of the wild is nice if there is a all out burnphase or a fight where you need less healing for a 40-60 sec period of the fight so some healers can nuke but over all the last tire is dissapointing.



The 8 sec dispell CD is implemented on all dispell effects so hopefully the encounters will not require stupid things like predetermend dispell orders or other not so fin mechanics.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While i have only tried the 2 first MoP instances since that is all that we have had available in the beta so far i have to say resto feelt quite good, healing mushrooms is a bit iffy but aslong as you know when the damage will come and have a pre determend stack point they are quite nice.</p>
<p>While i think Natures Swiftness will probably be prefered in raids Cenarion Ward is atleast in 5 mans a nice heal with its uses.<br />
Force of nature isn&#8217;t exactly the embodyment of intelligence but atleast all three of them spamheal for their entire duration.</p>
<p>The last tire is a bit lackluster for every spec, Disentanglement is a nice self heal and Heart of the wild is nice if there is a all out burnphase or a fight where you need less healing for a 40-60 sec period of the fight so some healers can nuke but over all the last tire is dissapointing.</p>
<p>The 8 sec dispell CD is implemented on all dispell effects so hopefully the encounters will not require stupid things like predetermend dispell orders or other not so fin mechanics.</p>
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		<title>By: Tranqx</title>
		<link>http://fallingleavesandwings.wordpress.com/2012/03/27/a-very-preliminary-look-at-the-resto-druid-mop-talent-and-ability-changes/#comment-6884</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tranqx]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2012 19:49:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi there,

Does the new heart of the wild provide additional Intellect to the restoration Druid if the stay in restoration form and continue healing for the entire 45sec?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there,</p>
<p>Does the new heart of the wild provide additional Intellect to the restoration Druid if the stay in restoration form and continue healing for the entire 45sec?</p>
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		<title>By: Algorython/Howlinwolf</title>
		<link>http://fallingleavesandwings.wordpress.com/2012/03/27/a-very-preliminary-look-at-the-resto-druid-mop-talent-and-ability-changes/#comment-6880</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Algorython/Howlinwolf]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2012 20:42:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Beru,

I&#039;ve enjoyed reading your blog for some time now.  It&#039;s interesting to me to read about druid healing from a rather different perspective from my own.  While I&#039;m an unrepentant altoholic, I&#039;ve been primarily a holy paladin since UBRS was practically end-game content, and I absolutely love where paladin healing is now, but I&#039;m also very happy with my relatively new worgen ex-boomkin-mostly-healer.  When I first built a resto spec for him, &quot;just in case&quot; (right), I felt like I had too many spells that did basically the same thing with icons that were all some kind of damned leaves and too little ability to deal with someone taking tons of damage right-gottdamn-now, but I really grew to like the combination of prediction and reaction that he has.  I might have slight preferences between the two of them from one fight to the next (healadin with blue crystal on Ultraxion FTW), for the most part I don&#039;t really care which one I run.

While you struggle with the limitations you find at your level of content, down here in what I&#039;d guess would be the lower middle class in Rohan&#039;s terms, I tend to find myself reacting to your frustrations with druid healing with a &quot;really?&quot;  My healers spend their time doing 10man Normal 5/8 in a casual guild that is as old as dirt (as are many of our members) and seeing just how much I can carry bad LFR groups (successfully 2-healing Madness thanks to the asshats who queued as healers and played DPS instead).  At my level of content, and with my playing peers, your fixes to druids would probably feel OP.  With most WoW players probably much closer to my experience than to yours, it may help explain why Blizz fails to fix your problems.

On another note, the problem with putting down shrooms is that things and/or people walk under my target location just as I&#039;m trying to place the damned things.  As a healer, I don&#039;t always have time to lose a second here and there to mushroom targeting problems.  I don&#039;t mind the idea of using a relative lull to place mushrooms for an upcoming burst, but I&#039;d want a smoother placement mechanism.  I&#039;d say to switch mushrooms to a single placement, but the ability to separately place each mushroom can be handy, especially with Fungal Growth.  Also, if each of your three shrooms has a 6 yard radius and you place them well, you&#039;ve actually covered a pretty large area or a couple of smaller areas.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beru,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve enjoyed reading your blog for some time now.  It&#8217;s interesting to me to read about druid healing from a rather different perspective from my own.  While I&#8217;m an unrepentant altoholic, I&#8217;ve been primarily a holy paladin since UBRS was practically end-game content, and I absolutely love where paladin healing is now, but I&#8217;m also very happy with my relatively new worgen ex-boomkin-mostly-healer.  When I first built a resto spec for him, &#8220;just in case&#8221; (right), I felt like I had too many spells that did basically the same thing with icons that were all some kind of damned leaves and too little ability to deal with someone taking tons of damage right-gottdamn-now, but I really grew to like the combination of prediction and reaction that he has.  I might have slight preferences between the two of them from one fight to the next (healadin with blue crystal on Ultraxion FTW), for the most part I don&#8217;t really care which one I run.</p>
<p>While you struggle with the limitations you find at your level of content, down here in what I&#8217;d guess would be the lower middle class in Rohan&#8217;s terms, I tend to find myself reacting to your frustrations with druid healing with a &#8220;really?&#8221;  My healers spend their time doing 10man Normal 5/8 in a casual guild that is as old as dirt (as are many of our members) and seeing just how much I can carry bad LFR groups (successfully 2-healing Madness thanks to the asshats who queued as healers and played DPS instead).  At my level of content, and with my playing peers, your fixes to druids would probably feel OP.  With most WoW players probably much closer to my experience than to yours, it may help explain why Blizz fails to fix your problems.</p>
<p>On another note, the problem with putting down shrooms is that things and/or people walk under my target location just as I&#8217;m trying to place the damned things.  As a healer, I don&#8217;t always have time to lose a second here and there to mushroom targeting problems.  I don&#8217;t mind the idea of using a relative lull to place mushrooms for an upcoming burst, but I&#8217;d want a smoother placement mechanism.  I&#8217;d say to switch mushrooms to a single placement, but the ability to separately place each mushroom can be handy, especially with Fungal Growth.  Also, if each of your three shrooms has a 6 yard radius and you place them well, you&#8217;ve actually covered a pretty large area or a couple of smaller areas.</p>
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		<title>By: Beruthiel</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Beruthiel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2012 15:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I feel that druids never really &quot;fit&quot; into the cataclysm healing design particularly well, and we basically received one bandaid fix after another to try and push our square peg into the round hole of healing. I&#039;d like to think that we&#039;ll be more streamlined in MoP, but I just don&#039;t know. It will be interesting seeing how everything works after they add monks into the mix (who looking to be extremely powerful healers at the moment). I guess we&#039;ll have to wait and see how it plays out during the beta :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel that druids never really &#8220;fit&#8221; into the cataclysm healing design particularly well, and we basically received one bandaid fix after another to try and push our square peg into the round hole of healing. I&#8217;d like to think that we&#8217;ll be more streamlined in MoP, but I just don&#8217;t know. It will be interesting seeing how everything works after they add monks into the mix (who looking to be extremely powerful healers at the moment). I guess we&#8217;ll have to wait and see how it plays out during the beta <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Beruthiel</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Beruthiel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2012 15:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No worries!

I&#039;ve seen the charts for Symbiosis. I just think it&#039;s still too early, and too little is known about the practical applications, to give thoughts or feedback yet :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No worries!</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen the charts for Symbiosis. I just think it&#8217;s still too early, and too little is known about the practical applications, to give thoughts or feedback yet <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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