Comments on: Responsibility and Respecting Other’s Time

By: Morrigu

Morrigu — Wed, 04 Apr 2012 09:06:38 +0000

You have way more patience than I do. I don’t mind the occasional AFK, life happens, but if it’s a constant thing then sorry, my time in game can be limited so I’m not going to waste it sitting on my butt waiting for people.

I’m not a mum myself yet, so I am not experienced in these things, but surely if your little ones need that amount of attention then you shouldn’t be in a dungeon. It’s not fair on the other players.

By: Squidfayce

Squidfayce — Wed, 04 Apr 2012 00:18:00 +0000

You only get deserter if you leave early on. After about 20-30 mins, you don’t get a penalty. If previous players have left, you may also avoid the penalty after leavi g 5 mins in. Although this second one is a gamble.
I’ve left plent of groups after 2 wipes like the ones you describe only to deal with the remaining time out of the 15 min random queue timer.

By: Pixelated Executioner

Pixelated Executioner — Tue, 03 Apr 2012 17:00:44 +0000

I’m one of those people who tries to have as much patience as possible with other people. We were all new once. But I’m also a big believer in not wasting valuable time for anyone else, either. One unannounced AFK is forgivable. Two is not. Especially not for a total of fifteen minutes. What makes this worse is that they never volunteered the information until what, 20+ minutes of waiting time? These are people that really shouldn’t be using LFD at all, and are the true target market for the upcoming scenarios (or whatever they’re called). The rest of us just get them as a bonus.

Situations like this are why I’m glad there’s an ignore feature, and that it blocks future group matches. This much compiled rudeness was uncalled for, and I’d make very sure I never had to group with them again, anywhere.

By: Berdache

Berdache — Tue, 03 Apr 2012 11:54:48 +0000

and remember the “Ignore” button is your friend.

I can stand a moderate amount of incompetence / inexperience but rude annoys me a lot.

Must admit LFG is a really good idea but I sometimes long for the good old days when you had to assemble your group by hand. Admitably it is easy now to forget the hour waits but I made some good friends and acquired some guildies from them. And being rude to me meant you did not get invited again.

By: Killingly

Killingly — Tue, 03 Apr 2012 11:50:48 +0000

Beru
I completely agree with you. I am (usually) more than happy to sit through most crap in a LFR or LFG, because everyone has to start somewhere. I am usually the one defending the green tank, low dps, or inexperienced healer. I will try to give advice, encouragement, etc. Unless I a stupid, and get in a group with Dendrite, then I get snarky as him (group mentality maybe??). The only thing that gets me mad/irritated, is AFKing without a heads up. That is the quickest way to loose an ally in me. I understand stuff comes up, but at least put your AFK flag up, even if you dont have the 10 seconds it takes to say, “Afk, a baby fell down a well” or whatever.

By: aneye

aneye — Tue, 03 Apr 2012 11:05:52 +0000

Actually, I thinh you don’t have to wait for 30mn debuff if you have been doing the instance for a long time. Sometime, you would have 7mn, 5mn or nothing at all

By: meliika

meliika — Tue, 03 Apr 2012 06:47:16 +0000

I’ve actually completely given up on groups like this… any sign of incompetence that’s looking likely to lead to them being rude to me because they’re idiots and I just leave these days. Random strangers being rude to me ruins my gaming experience, so I don’t want it.

By: Peachasaurus

Peachasaurus — Tue, 03 Apr 2012 05:02:35 +0000

I had a similar experience last night doing a satchel run on Peach. I zoned into VP thinking “great, quick run even if undergeared/green group”. Well, after 25 minutes had passed and we weren’t even at the 3rd trash pack I was starting to wonder what I’d gotten myself into. The tank afk’d before almost every pull, or seemed to as he’d just stand there- then walk into the mobs to “pull” them- usually landing me with healing aggro then telling me I was “healing too much”. The two hunters in the group had their pets on passive, and due to the language barrier I was experiencing we couldn’t quite figure out how to get their pets to attack 90% of the instance.
I had close to 40k more HP than our Paladin tank (again, no big deal- until I realized he was in ret gear with a sort of tank spec and was almost getting 1 shot by trash). I was patient, I was innervating and mana potting on trash/bosses to keep people alive. We made it through boss one, almost 40 minutes into the run. Shaman dc’s, we get a warlock that also appears to be either a fresh 85, or new to the game entirely. No big deal. We make it to the 2nd boss, it takes us just over 4.5 minutes to kill him (I had to tree-p-s) and then I was told that if I attempted to help dps again, I would be kicked as I am the healer.
Well, there goes my idea of a language barrier- I guess they just don’t want their pets attacking? We get to the groups with the temple adepts that heal. I mark the group(s) and cc accordingly. Am again told it’s not my place to CC or mark things. I am a healer, not a tank or dps. All the while trying to be helpful. After about 70 minutes we made it to the last boss. The tank goes “everyone know boss?” I go, “I do, you can jump to avoid static cling or I can dispel you- please move into the purple triangle when he casts it or it will likely kill you to be outside of it”. The tank goes “this is heroic, dispel or we kick you”. Again, I just remain quiet, hoping we 1 shot this boss that will likely take 5 minutes given our total combined dps of about 12k (when I help).
I don’t usually mind getting put in with new to 85 players, or new to the game/spec entirely however due to the run taking over an hour- and being told to “do my job” or they’d kick me I think it’s going to be awhile before I do a satchel run again. Oh- my satchel of wonder? 43g and ONE mythical healing potion- I had such high, high hopes for that satchel I worked pretty darn hard to get lol.

By: Zy

Zy — Tue, 03 Apr 2012 04:35:57 +0000

They had NO RIGHT to cuss at you, that makes me almost as mad as how inconsiderate and selfish these people are. I’ve been reading a thread on the forums on and off titled “I’m a happy space goat”. The OP is a casual who talks about farming for pets, dancing in the fountain, ect. And how much they love this game. Most of the posters are cheering them on and agreeing, “I am that kind of player”. I am fine with all that, this is a game and it should be fun. Absolutely! If you tame a spirit beast on your hunter and share your overbubbling joy in trade chat I will congratulate you or /cheer you if I see you by the bank.

But as soon as you join a group, be it LFR or LFD it’s not just about you anymore. And your fun does not have overriding priority on my fun. If it’s not fun for you to gem your gear, stay out of the mechanics or know the basics of your class why is it fun for me to carry you? Especially if you have an attitude about it? I am more than happy to help somebody out if they are willing to learn or do some carrying. I’ve been the noob at times, I know I’ve been carried (sometimes more recently than I like to admit!). But there is a line between getting a ride and being abusive and I see it crossed all the time. That group definitely was in the wrong.

As a mom who’s had to apologize to a group and leave politely because of my child I will say that woman was WRONG. So was her significant other. Having twins is NO excuse for behaving like that!

By: meliika

meliika — Tue, 03 Apr 2012 04:34:59 +0000

Haha… I like this option. I wouldn’t have waited until they were rude though, I would do it just to show them what it’s like to wait, before they inevitably kick me because they themselves actually have no patience for other people afking.