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	<title>Comments on: Monday Musings &#8211; Inferno Edition</title>
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		<title>By: Sprinks</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2012 19:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree on the point regarding the cooperative gameplay being more fun than solo. Best of luck to you two in Inferno. :D]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree on the point regarding the cooperative gameplay being more fun than solo. Best of luck to you two in Inferno. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jar</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2012 16:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I must say that I&#039;ve thoroughly enjoyed playing with you and Brade. A lot of the people from my guild zipped on ahead and are late inferno currently so getting to play through a bulk of Hell difficulty with you guys was a blast. Hands down the cooperative play has been far more enjoyable than solo play. I liked that my spec, albeit only slightly different than yours witch doctor wise, complimented well when dealing with larger packs and I actually &quot;tanked&quot; a few mobs as I had a little more HP while you guys picked up health globes for me :D

All in all I say i&#039;ve had a great experience with the game and I&#039;m genuinely looking forward to playing more Act 2 Inferno when I have the opportunity. When we all finally get to act 4 i&#039;m looking forward to some whimseyshire action. Have a magic find gear swap for those clouds waiting in the wings.

Good luck and happy hunting as always!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must say that I&#8217;ve thoroughly enjoyed playing with you and Brade. A lot of the people from my guild zipped on ahead and are late inferno currently so getting to play through a bulk of Hell difficulty with you guys was a blast. Hands down the cooperative play has been far more enjoyable than solo play. I liked that my spec, albeit only slightly different than yours witch doctor wise, complimented well when dealing with larger packs and I actually &#8220;tanked&#8221; a few mobs as I had a little more HP while you guys picked up health globes for me <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>All in all I say i&#8217;ve had a great experience with the game and I&#8217;m genuinely looking forward to playing more Act 2 Inferno when I have the opportunity. When we all finally get to act 4 i&#8217;m looking forward to some whimseyshire action. Have a magic find gear swap for those clouds waiting in the wings.</p>
<p>Good luck and happy hunting as always!</p>
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		<title>By: Peachasaurus</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2012 01:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve just gotten through nightmare- have yet to try hell.  I&#039;ve mostly played co-op with a minimum of 2 others, usually a full party (Raggu/Ely/Warbat lol).  I&#039;m always wandering off &quot;exploring&quot; usually to my own demise, or the groups &gt;.&gt;  I get pretty excited when I find treasure goblins, and quite enjoy uncovering the entirety of the map, and breaking/opening every jar/pot/whatever along the way.  I played for the first time alone yesterday- Act 4 on Nightmare... My poor pets probably think I have real &quot;issues&quot;  many expletives were yelled rather loudly at my repeated deaths to the copious amount of mobs- or just my own stupidity.  *Did you know that the &quot;helpers&quot; you get can use can be given GEAR?  And they have TALENTS?  They weren&#039;t so useless once I figured this out! lolol.  I&#039;m having fun doing it at my own pace, and plan on levelling my Witchdoctor next.  Peachizard just hit 50 last night so I&#039;ll likely try hell for a bit, then swap to tossing frogs at everything.  I also love the cow care bear level.  Well, not on nightmare.  Chubby Purple Unicorn has slain Peachizard.  Chubby Pink Unicorn has slain Peachizard.  Twinkleroot has slain Peachizard.  I don&#039;t even think I got a rare that run : / haha.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve just gotten through nightmare- have yet to try hell.  I&#8217;ve mostly played co-op with a minimum of 2 others, usually a full party (Raggu/Ely/Warbat lol).  I&#8217;m always wandering off &#8220;exploring&#8221; usually to my own demise, or the groups &gt;.&gt;  I get pretty excited when I find treasure goblins, and quite enjoy uncovering the entirety of the map, and breaking/opening every jar/pot/whatever along the way.  I played for the first time alone yesterday- Act 4 on Nightmare&#8230; My poor pets probably think I have real &#8220;issues&#8221;  many expletives were yelled rather loudly at my repeated deaths to the copious amount of mobs- or just my own stupidity.  *Did you know that the &#8220;helpers&#8221; you get can use can be given GEAR?  And they have TALENTS?  They weren&#8217;t so useless once I figured this out! lolol.  I&#8217;m having fun doing it at my own pace, and plan on levelling my Witchdoctor next.  Peachizard just hit 50 last night so I&#8217;ll likely try hell for a bit, then swap to tossing frogs at everything.  I also love the cow care bear level.  Well, not on nightmare.  Chubby Purple Unicorn has slain Peachizard.  Chubby Pink Unicorn has slain Peachizard.  Twinkleroot has slain Peachizard.  I don&#8217;t even think I got a rare that run : / haha.</p>
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		<title>By: perculia</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[perculia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2012 00:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We decided to split leveling JC/BS--I got stuck with BS and stopped after Level 8 when I was always broke and had maybe one item to show for it. I heard that the process will be changed to be less costly, so I&#039;ll finish it out then and held onto the rare patterns I&#039;ve found. As for AHing--I&#039;d be happy to email more about it since I am slightly possessive about my strats and also need to be making a ton of gold to buy those upgrades now ;)

Good luck with Act II! We farmed the AH (and Act I) for a week before trying it, so don&#039;t get too discouraged if the wasps seem awful at first :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We decided to split leveling JC/BS&#8211;I got stuck with BS and stopped after Level 8 when I was always broke and had maybe one item to show for it. I heard that the process will be changed to be less costly, so I&#8217;ll finish it out then and held onto the rare patterns I&#8217;ve found. As for AHing&#8211;I&#8217;d be happy to email more about it since I am slightly possessive about my strats and also need to be making a ton of gold to buy those upgrades now <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Good luck with Act II! We farmed the AH (and Act I) for a week before trying it, so don&#8217;t get too discouraged if the wasps seem awful at first <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Beruthiel</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Beruthiel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2012 23:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think what has surprised me the most about the game is how far I&#039;ve gotten in it. I never really expected to be tackling Inferno, more or less enjoying it! Brade has always been the more adept gamer and it was never a doubt in my mind that he&#039;d do it, but for me to not only have gotten this far, but feel like I&#039;m pulling my own weight has been a pleasant surprise :)

We are both working on building resist sets, but it&#039;s been a little slow going, and unfortunately resist gear is fairly expensive on the AH (or I&#039;m looking for the wrong things!). I&#039;m hoping before we get too deep into everything, we&#039;ll be able to build up our gear a little more so that we have more resist on it. As we find stuff worth selling, we are doing it, but we are both still fairly cash poor (I&#039;ll blame my obsessive &quot;must do everyone&quot; complex, and my expenditures on building up both my BS and JC for my poorness!). I&#039;d love to hear any tips you might have for AHing!

I would definitely agree on not being able to use some of the more traditional specs when grouping. Brade and I have both read up quite a bit on our classes, but have both deviated from some of the more &quot;standard&quot; (can those even really exist?) specs, so that we can better navigate together. We both have CC talents, we both have some survival talents (well...at least I think he does!). But so far we&#039;ve manage to figure out solutions for things seemingly impossible. I&#039;m hoping that we will have time to finish Act 1 tonight and see what is in store for us in Act 2 :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think what has surprised me the most about the game is how far I&#8217;ve gotten in it. I never really expected to be tackling Inferno, more or less enjoying it! Brade has always been the more adept gamer and it was never a doubt in my mind that he&#8217;d do it, but for me to not only have gotten this far, but feel like I&#8217;m pulling my own weight has been a pleasant surprise <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>We are both working on building resist sets, but it&#8217;s been a little slow going, and unfortunately resist gear is fairly expensive on the AH (or I&#8217;m looking for the wrong things!). I&#8217;m hoping before we get too deep into everything, we&#8217;ll be able to build up our gear a little more so that we have more resist on it. As we find stuff worth selling, we are doing it, but we are both still fairly cash poor (I&#8217;ll blame my obsessive &#8220;must do everyone&#8221; complex, and my expenditures on building up both my BS and JC for my poorness!). I&#8217;d love to hear any tips you might have for AHing!</p>
<p>I would definitely agree on not being able to use some of the more traditional specs when grouping. Brade and I have both read up quite a bit on our classes, but have both deviated from some of the more &#8220;standard&#8221; (can those even really exist?) specs, so that we can better navigate together. We both have CC talents, we both have some survival talents (well&#8230;at least I think he does!). But so far we&#8217;ve manage to figure out solutions for things seemingly impossible. I&#8217;m hoping that we will have time to finish Act 1 tonight and see what is in store for us in Act 2 <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: perculia</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2012 22:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I always like seeing people talking about learning Inferno in a group, since there&#039;s been a lot of complaints that Inferno is much easier to solo learn. Hamlet and I leveled our ranged characters together, and while parts of Hell were ugly before we used the AH, we settled into a pattern to where we learned most of Act II Inferno in a day. The challenge for us was that there are popular glass canon builds/gear setups for both our classes, but that works less well in a group where the mobs are stronger and your glass canon setup won&#039;t one shot them.

The problem with farming is that the rewards in Act I aren&#039;t really proportional to the effort required (a downside to having Inferno scale up in mob level/difficulty/rewards--Act III/IV is the real endgame). I think it&#039;s a lot more fun to get gold by killing champion packs than playing the AH, but the AH is sadly more profitable. I&#039;ll search for certain item/stat combos under a fairly low price point--anything that shows up in that price range I will be able to flip for a good 100k more. (Side note: Level 45+ items can have great stat combos--don&#039;t limit searches to just 60.) 

In contrast, maybe I&#039;ll get one item per run from Act I that&#039;s of use. It&#039;s weird how the most efficient way to get gold is to play the AH instead of playing your character, and that translates into being the fastest way to gear up a character and allow meaningful progression, as opposed to a skill cap/strategy. It sounds really odd after what I&#039;m used to in WoW, but D3 was designed to feature an AH, so it does make some sense that most of the items you&#039;d get by looting have junk stat combos--else there&#039;d be no use for the AH. (Act II is an even stranger place, where the increased difficulty + awful base mob types like wasps, huntresses, and naga, coupled with level 49 items dropping, makes it really unappealing to &#039;farm.&#039;)

Anyway, I still enjoy Act I speed clears since I get bored of the AH eventually and free gems/pots are nice, and have started doing a bit more exploring for book/dungeon achievements :) We found that doing Skeleton King runs with clearing out the Cemetery crypts usually yielded 5 stacks, and when our gear got better, we switched to Butcher runs, which included two Halls of Agony floors and the prison. It&#039;s also been fun seeing how my NV spec has changed as I&#039;ve gotten more upgrades, both dps and survivability.

At this point I&#039;ve also switched a lot of my vitality gear to resist gear. I started inferno with something like 37k HP, and rethought it when a monk friend was carrying us through with drastically less vitality and 600+ resists as I was dead 90% of the run. I&#039;ve halved my vitality while really beefing up my resists (as well as having some glass canon pieces if I ever solo), and my survivability has gone way up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always like seeing people talking about learning Inferno in a group, since there&#8217;s been a lot of complaints that Inferno is much easier to solo learn. Hamlet and I leveled our ranged characters together, and while parts of Hell were ugly before we used the AH, we settled into a pattern to where we learned most of Act II Inferno in a day. The challenge for us was that there are popular glass canon builds/gear setups for both our classes, but that works less well in a group where the mobs are stronger and your glass canon setup won&#8217;t one shot them.</p>
<p>The problem with farming is that the rewards in Act I aren&#8217;t really proportional to the effort required (a downside to having Inferno scale up in mob level/difficulty/rewards&#8211;Act III/IV is the real endgame). I think it&#8217;s a lot more fun to get gold by killing champion packs than playing the AH, but the AH is sadly more profitable. I&#8217;ll search for certain item/stat combos under a fairly low price point&#8211;anything that shows up in that price range I will be able to flip for a good 100k more. (Side note: Level 45+ items can have great stat combos&#8211;don&#8217;t limit searches to just 60.) </p>
<p>In contrast, maybe I&#8217;ll get one item per run from Act I that&#8217;s of use. It&#8217;s weird how the most efficient way to get gold is to play the AH instead of playing your character, and that translates into being the fastest way to gear up a character and allow meaningful progression, as opposed to a skill cap/strategy. It sounds really odd after what I&#8217;m used to in WoW, but D3 was designed to feature an AH, so it does make some sense that most of the items you&#8217;d get by looting have junk stat combos&#8211;else there&#8217;d be no use for the AH. (Act II is an even stranger place, where the increased difficulty + awful base mob types like wasps, huntresses, and naga, coupled with level 49 items dropping, makes it really unappealing to &#8216;farm.&#8217;)</p>
<p>Anyway, I still enjoy Act I speed clears since I get bored of the AH eventually and free gems/pots are nice, and have started doing a bit more exploring for book/dungeon achievements <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  We found that doing Skeleton King runs with clearing out the Cemetery crypts usually yielded 5 stacks, and when our gear got better, we switched to Butcher runs, which included two Halls of Agony floors and the prison. It&#8217;s also been fun seeing how my NV spec has changed as I&#8217;ve gotten more upgrades, both dps and survivability.</p>
<p>At this point I&#8217;ve also switched a lot of my vitality gear to resist gear. I started inferno with something like 37k HP, and rethought it when a monk friend was carrying us through with drastically less vitality and 600+ resists as I was dead 90% of the run. I&#8217;ve halved my vitality while really beefing up my resists (as well as having some glass canon pieces if I ever solo), and my survivability has gone way up.</p>
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