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		<title>By: Namor</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2012 23:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Since I got the game for free and have been enjoying playing it, I decided to give myself up to the $60 game cost to spend on the rmah as a way of dipping my toe into this new water. I set a top price of $15 per item and bought some decent legendaries/set pieces that were upgrades and helped me take the next step in progressing. I figured I could pretty readily sell them for what I paid. I share, though, your general discomfort with the idea of spending money to buy gear as the general &quot;means to progress&quot;, as compared with an investment of time and effort to build skill and gear (whether via drops or spending gold gained through gameplay). It seems to pander to the instant gratification impulse in us. 

On practical terms, I think it is quite possible that the way many people will use the rmah will be to both sell and buy, with relatively low net dollars invested (or earned). At least that is how I can imagine myself using it moving forward. If I get a godly item that I can&#039;t use, I would sell it and then use the proceeds to buy gear (as opposed to cashing out). I do worry about the impact on the value of gold once they enable buying gold.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since I got the game for free and have been enjoying playing it, I decided to give myself up to the $60 game cost to spend on the rmah as a way of dipping my toe into this new water. I set a top price of $15 per item and bought some decent legendaries/set pieces that were upgrades and helped me take the next step in progressing. I figured I could pretty readily sell them for what I paid. I share, though, your general discomfort with the idea of spending money to buy gear as the general &#8220;means to progress&#8221;, as compared with an investment of time and effort to build skill and gear (whether via drops or spending gold gained through gameplay). It seems to pander to the instant gratification impulse in us. </p>
<p>On practical terms, I think it is quite possible that the way many people will use the rmah will be to both sell and buy, with relatively low net dollars invested (or earned). At least that is how I can imagine myself using it moving forward. If I get a godly item that I can&#8217;t use, I would sell it and then use the proceeds to buy gear (as opposed to cashing out). I do worry about the impact on the value of gold once they enable buying gold.</p>
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		<title>By: Jenn</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 08:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think the idea is interesting. I will probably try it out and see if I can make some money (that is, if it will be available for me, which it might not - RAF isn&#039;t available in Romania, for example), but I won&#039;t pay real money for in-game things. I&#039;m sure I will be fine with the upgrades I&#039;ll get by playing and (maybe) buying off the regular AH. I don&#039;t expect the RMAH to affect my gameplay in any way, honestly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the idea is interesting. I will probably try it out and see if I can make some money (that is, if it will be available for me, which it might not &#8211; RAF isn&#8217;t available in Romania, for example), but I won&#8217;t pay real money for in-game things. I&#8217;m sure I will be fine with the upgrades I&#8217;ll get by playing and (maybe) buying off the regular AH. I don&#8217;t expect the RMAH to affect my gameplay in any way, honestly.</p>
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		<title>By: Tazor</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 04:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What a very strange game D3 is.  What other game out there is this badly balanced, ridiculously random and basically unfinished? Personally, I agree with Beru. I&#039;d never buy items with real money. Forcing me to browse the AH just so I can compete is bad enough (using gold I don&#039;t have) let alone spending real money. This is about as unfun as I can imagine any game being. If I had paid $60 for this game I think I would have requested a refund. Thank gawd for the annual pass. Sad thing is, I like the basic gameplay and I find myself wanting to play the game (i am working on inferno act 1) but then I remember my gear sucks and I have no other recourse than to spend time in the AH instead of playing the game. Farming for gear? no thanks. I think the best thing that can be said about D3 and the RMAH is it&#039;s cutting edge. Something only Blizzard could get away with.
Oh well, back to wow.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a very strange game D3 is.  What other game out there is this badly balanced, ridiculously random and basically unfinished? Personally, I agree with Beru. I&#8217;d never buy items with real money. Forcing me to browse the AH just so I can compete is bad enough (using gold I don&#8217;t have) let alone spending real money. This is about as unfun as I can imagine any game being. If I had paid $60 for this game I think I would have requested a refund. Thank gawd for the annual pass. Sad thing is, I like the basic gameplay and I find myself wanting to play the game (i am working on inferno act 1) but then I remember my gear sucks and I have no other recourse than to spend time in the AH instead of playing the game. Farming for gear? no thanks. I think the best thing that can be said about D3 and the RMAH is it&#8217;s cutting edge. Something only Blizzard could get away with.<br />
Oh well, back to wow.</p>
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		<title>By: WeWhoEat</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2012 22:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Obviously a lot of tone was lost in translation here :)

I&#039;m speaking to the general unease with RMAH, and how they&#039;re very legitimate feelings for anyone to have but once we get into the swing of things, and we live in the reality of the RMAH world we&#039;ll find that those fear were really unfounded.  I never took your post to be one of complaining how you&#039;re progressing in the game, my comments are directed specifically at the fear that you can&#039;t progress in the game without paying for it in the RMAH as many people I know have expressed, and how you hinted that you may find yourself in that position with your comment &quot;I have a sinking feeling that if I want to improve my character to its maximum potential I am going to have to participate in a system that I don’t think I agree with.&quot;

The point of my post is to allay the fears or trepidations that people have about the RMAH and even though you&#039;re not in the position of &quot;why do I have to AH myself to make any progress&quot; you did express that that is where your concern lies with the RMAH when the time comes to that.  Really no different that the fear and trepidation we feel with any changes that happen in wow, but after living with them the reality is a lot different than we thought it would be.

Hardly worthy of thinking I&#039;m launching a focused attack on something you didn&#039;t do :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obviously a lot of tone was lost in translation here <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;m speaking to the general unease with RMAH, and how they&#8217;re very legitimate feelings for anyone to have but once we get into the swing of things, and we live in the reality of the RMAH world we&#8217;ll find that those fear were really unfounded.  I never took your post to be one of complaining how you&#8217;re progressing in the game, my comments are directed specifically at the fear that you can&#8217;t progress in the game without paying for it in the RMAH as many people I know have expressed, and how you hinted that you may find yourself in that position with your comment &#8220;I have a sinking feeling that if I want to improve my character to its maximum potential I am going to have to participate in a system that I don’t think I agree with.&#8221;</p>
<p>The point of my post is to allay the fears or trepidations that people have about the RMAH and even though you&#8217;re not in the position of &#8220;why do I have to AH myself to make any progress&#8221; you did express that that is where your concern lies with the RMAH when the time comes to that.  Really no different that the fear and trepidation we feel with any changes that happen in wow, but after living with them the reality is a lot different than we thought it would be.</p>
<p>Hardly worthy of thinking I&#8217;m launching a focused attack on something you didn&#8217;t do <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Beruthiel</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2012 22:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is you comment based in reality? :P

I have absolutely no clue where half of the commentary in your reply comes from - certainly not my post. Not once did I say anything in this post about the difficulty of Inferno, or not being able to progress in it without the AH. In fact, I wouldn&#039;t even say I, personally, have hit a brick wall as I&#039;ve continued to make steady progress through Act 3. Perhaps your are inflecting other commentary that you&#039;ve read into your thoughts here, but I simply offered an off the cuff, gut reaction in a total of four paragraphs on my initial feelings on the RMAH. Hardly worthy of the scathing &quot;stop bitching you&#039;ve not finished the game and go play if that&#039;s what you want to do/L2P&quot; response you&#039;ve posted here (also of note, not one time have I &lt;em&gt;ever&lt;/em&gt; offered a complaint about how quickly/slowly I&#039;m progressing through the game - in any of my posts).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is you comment based in reality? <img src='http://s2.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I have absolutely no clue where half of the commentary in your reply comes from &#8211; certainly not my post. Not once did I say anything in this post about the difficulty of Inferno, or not being able to progress in it without the AH. In fact, I wouldn&#8217;t even say I, personally, have hit a brick wall as I&#8217;ve continued to make steady progress through Act 3. Perhaps your are inflecting other commentary that you&#8217;ve read into your thoughts here, but I simply offered an off the cuff, gut reaction in a total of four paragraphs on my initial feelings on the RMAH. Hardly worthy of the scathing &#8220;stop bitching you&#8217;ve not finished the game and go play if that&#8217;s what you want to do/L2P&#8221; response you&#8217;ve posted here (also of note, not one time have I <em>ever</em> offered a complaint about how quickly/slowly I&#8217;m progressing through the game &#8211; in any of my posts).</p>
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		<title>By: WeWhoEat</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2012 21:29:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can certainly understand the reaction, but as many people pointed out its really not based in reality.

Fears:
* RMAH will make it so I can&#039;t progress without paying money

This is very much a non issue, we have people complaining they can&#039;t finish the game less than a month from release without fishing for upgrades in the AH.  Yes, inferno is hard, and yes its more brutal to certain classes/play styles but remember A, its not been fully tuned yet by the devs, they have long posts about changes they want to make B, Its less than a month since this game has been out, have you really capped out your skill level at playing the game? and C, AFAIK this difficulty level wasn&#039;t even in previous diablo games, its supposed to staggeringly difficult.

If you like playing the game and not the AH, then play the game, if you&#039;ve hit the inferno brick wall, then take the time to get better at your class, or farm for better upgrades yourself, or mess with another build, or start playing a different class.  Saying that you can only get better by acquiring that top echelon of gear that has perfect stats is the same old wow raider excuse of &quot;its my gear&quot;, especially since you&#039;ve not been playing this game very long.

Also remember that since this game has no concept of soul bound, items are forever (unless they&#039;re rotting in an un-played account).  As time goes on there will be more and more &quot;perfect&quot; stat gear out there, continually driving the price down.

* RMAH will kill the gold auction house

This may be a real possibility, gold could lose it value completely as it has in many other games that don&#039;t provide enough of a gold sink.  It will be interesting to see what steps blizzard takes to maintain the gold economy if this happens.  But if it does happen, you can still participate in the RMAH without spending any money.  Put your items up for sale in there, and earn blizz bucks that you can then use to purchase other items, really no different than the gold AH, other than you no longer have vendor-ing and chests as income for the AH.

The bottom line is that if you&#039;re complaining that the AH is the only way for you to make progress in inferno at this point in the game&#039;s lifecycle, I really think that you&#039;re conjuring a tempest in a teacup.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can certainly understand the reaction, but as many people pointed out its really not based in reality.</p>
<p>Fears:<br />
* RMAH will make it so I can&#8217;t progress without paying money</p>
<p>This is very much a non issue, we have people complaining they can&#8217;t finish the game less than a month from release without fishing for upgrades in the AH.  Yes, inferno is hard, and yes its more brutal to certain classes/play styles but remember A, its not been fully tuned yet by the devs, they have long posts about changes they want to make B, Its less than a month since this game has been out, have you really capped out your skill level at playing the game? and C, AFAIK this difficulty level wasn&#8217;t even in previous diablo games, its supposed to staggeringly difficult.</p>
<p>If you like playing the game and not the AH, then play the game, if you&#8217;ve hit the inferno brick wall, then take the time to get better at your class, or farm for better upgrades yourself, or mess with another build, or start playing a different class.  Saying that you can only get better by acquiring that top echelon of gear that has perfect stats is the same old wow raider excuse of &#8220;its my gear&#8221;, especially since you&#8217;ve not been playing this game very long.</p>
<p>Also remember that since this game has no concept of soul bound, items are forever (unless they&#8217;re rotting in an un-played account).  As time goes on there will be more and more &#8220;perfect&#8221; stat gear out there, continually driving the price down.</p>
<p>* RMAH will kill the gold auction house</p>
<p>This may be a real possibility, gold could lose it value completely as it has in many other games that don&#8217;t provide enough of a gold sink.  It will be interesting to see what steps blizzard takes to maintain the gold economy if this happens.  But if it does happen, you can still participate in the RMAH without spending any money.  Put your items up for sale in there, and earn blizz bucks that you can then use to purchase other items, really no different than the gold AH, other than you no longer have vendor-ing and chests as income for the AH.</p>
<p>The bottom line is that if you&#8217;re complaining that the AH is the only way for you to make progress in inferno at this point in the game&#8217;s lifecycle, I really think that you&#8217;re conjuring a tempest in a teacup.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2012 19:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s basically how I plan to use the RMAH, throwing random stuff up and hoping for a couple of bucks to fund my WoW sub. The $250 items aren&#039;t going to stick around, it&#039;s just a new feature and people are trying to guage the market. Give it about a month, everything&#039;s going to come down in price.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s basically how I plan to use the RMAH, throwing random stuff up and hoping for a couple of bucks to fund my WoW sub. The $250 items aren&#8217;t going to stick around, it&#8217;s just a new feature and people are trying to guage the market. Give it about a month, everything&#8217;s going to come down in price.</p>
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		<title>By: Myth</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2012 18:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I doubt I&#039;ll use the RMAH. It feels like you&#039;re paying money to cheapen the experience. Like when you&#039;re playing in multiplayer and your buddy wants to turn on god mode to get ahead. (And it sorta pushes the bounds on what is cheating - using something outside the game to get ahead is ok, so long as the devs say so?) Not my cup o tea.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I doubt I&#8217;ll use the RMAH. It feels like you&#8217;re paying money to cheapen the experience. Like when you&#8217;re playing in multiplayer and your buddy wants to turn on god mode to get ahead. (And it sorta pushes the bounds on what is cheating &#8211; using something outside the game to get ahead is ok, so long as the devs say so?) Not my cup o tea.</p>
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		<title>By: Sunnier</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2012 18:11:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I dislike spending real money on this type of stuff too, though you can always just limit spending to the money you make selling on the RMAH. My boyfriend was adamantly against spending his hard earned cash, but he did put up some items he found to test the waters. He made $18, which is enough to buy quite a few things last time I checked. At that point it just feels like the gold AH but in a different currency.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dislike spending real money on this type of stuff too, though you can always just limit spending to the money you make selling on the RMAH. My boyfriend was adamantly against spending his hard earned cash, but he did put up some items he found to test the waters. He made $18, which is enough to buy quite a few things last time I checked. At that point it just feels like the gold AH but in a different currency.</p>
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		<title>By: Borsk</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2012 18:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To further clarify, someone acquiring large sums of gold, cash, or items, doesn&#039;t really affect how I play the game. I don&#039;t think the best items are so rare that they are going to be caught in this trading circle of the super rich. Eventually enough will exist that the price will drop just due to the large number of people playing the game.

At one time I looked at 500,000 items like they were Bentleys. Now those aren&#039;t even viable upgrades for me.

/mini-blog-off]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To further clarify, someone acquiring large sums of gold, cash, or items, doesn&#8217;t really affect how I play the game. I don&#8217;t think the best items are so rare that they are going to be caught in this trading circle of the super rich. Eventually enough will exist that the price will drop just due to the large number of people playing the game.</p>
<p>At one time I looked at 500,000 items like they were Bentleys. Now those aren&#8217;t even viable upgrades for me.</p>
<p>/mini-blog-off</p>
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