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	<title>Comments on: Same Problems, Different Day &#8211;  Evaluating the Resto Druid Toolkit By The Numbers</title>
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	<description>My Thoughts on Healing, Raiding, and being a Resto Druid</description>
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		<title>By: On Healing in Mists &#124; Jaded Alt</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[On Healing in Mists &#124; Jaded Alt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2012 22:35:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] the most part, I agree with other restoration druids about the state of the class even I raid in a 10, and not 25 setting. Having two [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: tommy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tommy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2012 17:24:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[thanks for the write up. i used to heal as a holy priest in vanilla and bc, but then quit wow until a couple months ago. i decided to try resto druid and, generally speaking, am enjoying it, having fun, etc.

my crew raided 10 man MP last night for the first time. we’re all noobs and undergeared, but miraculously we got to the second boss.

anyhow, my point is i felt pretty good on the first fight, but pretty helpless on the feng fight — by the time my heals took effect, the shammy had essentially relegated me to overhealing. it was pretty frustrating and i assumed i was doing something wrong. and, i just can’t get the shrooms to work efficiently for me.

anyhow, it’s nice to read that pro people feel the same thing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for the write up. i used to heal as a holy priest in vanilla and bc, but then quit wow until a couple months ago. i decided to try resto druid and, generally speaking, am enjoying it, having fun, etc.</p>
<p>my crew raided 10 man MP last night for the first time. we’re all noobs and undergeared, but miraculously we got to the second boss.</p>
<p>anyhow, my point is i felt pretty good on the first fight, but pretty helpless on the feng fight — by the time my heals took effect, the shammy had essentially relegated me to overhealing. it was pretty frustrating and i assumed i was doing something wrong. and, i just can’t get the shrooms to work efficiently for me.</p>
<p>anyhow, it’s nice to read that pro people feel the same thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Same Problems, Different Day Pt. 2 &#8211; Continued Resto Druid Evaluation &#171; Falling Leaves and Wings</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Same Problems, Different Day Pt. 2 &#8211; Continued Resto Druid Evaluation &#171; Falling Leaves and Wings]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 17:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] weeks ago I wrote this post, were I took an early look at how Resto Druids were faring comparatively to the other healing [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Shupani</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shupani]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2012 13:12:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m pretty glad to see this, to be quite honest. I previously quit playing at the tail end of Wrath, so coming back to druid healing in MoP was... jarring, to say the very least. I already knew about the loss of Tree of Life (it&#039;s part of the reason I quit pre-Cata in the first place), but I had *no* idea about the fact that we could no longer cast Lifebloom on multiple targets, and that is an absolute crutch and a half. And yet anyone I talked to about how inefficient I felt as a druid healer persisted to tell me how OP I was. Well, constantly being OOM as a result of *trying* to deal with heavy raid damage and failing is not exactly what I consider OP at all. So this post was very validating to read, if ultimately very worrying. I&#039;ve been saying since the first day I came back how it feels like while many other healers got new things to work with, we got... mushrooms. Hooray. And nothing much as far as I can tell in MoP, since as I remember Mushrooms were there in Cata, too.

I feel like Blizzard only focused on how apparently exceptional we are in PVP - apparently, since I don&#039;t arena at all - and nerfed us to deal with that, while not giving a care to what it did to PVE raiders.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m pretty glad to see this, to be quite honest. I previously quit playing at the tail end of Wrath, so coming back to druid healing in MoP was&#8230; jarring, to say the very least. I already knew about the loss of Tree of Life (it&#8217;s part of the reason I quit pre-Cata in the first place), but I had *no* idea about the fact that we could no longer cast Lifebloom on multiple targets, and that is an absolute crutch and a half. And yet anyone I talked to about how inefficient I felt as a druid healer persisted to tell me how OP I was. Well, constantly being OOM as a result of *trying* to deal with heavy raid damage and failing is not exactly what I consider OP at all. So this post was very validating to read, if ultimately very worrying. I&#8217;ve been saying since the first day I came back how it feels like while many other healers got new things to work with, we got&#8230; mushrooms. Hooray. And nothing much as far as I can tell in MoP, since as I remember Mushrooms were there in Cata, too.</p>
<p>I feel like Blizzard only focused on how apparently exceptional we are in PVP &#8211; apparently, since I don&#8217;t arena at all &#8211; and nerfed us to deal with that, while not giving a care to what it did to PVE raiders.</p>
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		<title>By: Patch 5.1 Notes &#124; Spinning Crane Kick</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Patch 5.1 Notes &#124; Spinning Crane Kick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2012 05:58:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] For curiosity&#8217;s sake, I checked the druid changes, and there is no Tree love. And they do need it. Check out this post from Beru. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] For curiosity&#8217;s sake, I checked the druid changes, and there is no Tree love. And they do need it. Check out this post from Beru. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Martle</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Martle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 15:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Man, u sure know how to complain. Ur druud is usually right in de middle of the healingpack numberwise and still u rant on about how stuff isnt fair compared to you! I play a holy priest, how should i feel about ur graphs then? 
In our 25 man raids the druuds do more than good, even topping the meters at certain fights. Same goes for me as a holy priests, some fights i struggle to keep my hps up par but at certain fights i soar high. Imo this is not a case where druud should be buffed but more a case of u adjusting ur playstyle, it is a new xpac, ur supposed to alter ur playstyle instead of just complaining about how &#039;bad&#039; ur class is. If there is something u can conclude from ur graphs it is one thing: monks need a nerf. Take into consideration that monks are a new class, do u remember dk&#039;s in wotlk? Exactly overpowered as hell then nerfed to the point that they werent more special than others. I expect the same to happen to monks in the future.

All i can say is if u couldnt top up healing charts in cata as druud an u cant do it now at any point, then ur doing something wrong. I know/knew ppl that play druud and can/could do what you cant/couldnt.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, u sure know how to complain. Ur druud is usually right in de middle of the healingpack numberwise and still u rant on about how stuff isnt fair compared to you! I play a holy priest, how should i feel about ur graphs then?<br />
In our 25 man raids the druuds do more than good, even topping the meters at certain fights. Same goes for me as a holy priests, some fights i struggle to keep my hps up par but at certain fights i soar high. Imo this is not a case where druud should be buffed but more a case of u adjusting ur playstyle, it is a new xpac, ur supposed to alter ur playstyle instead of just complaining about how &#8216;bad&#8217; ur class is. If there is something u can conclude from ur graphs it is one thing: monks need a nerf. Take into consideration that monks are a new class, do u remember dk&#8217;s in wotlk? Exactly overpowered as hell then nerfed to the point that they werent more special than others. I expect the same to happen to monks in the future.</p>
<p>All i can say is if u couldnt top up healing charts in cata as druud an u cant do it now at any point, then ur doing something wrong. I know/knew ppl that play druud and can/could do what you cant/couldnt.</p>
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		<title>By: emerlock</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[emerlock]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2012 18:50:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[But it&#039;s not as bad as raidbots indicates. Raidbots parses its data from WoL, and WoL cannot accurately track SS (one of Disc&#039;s top mitigation due to how it&#039;s calculated). It&#039;s a known issue: http://forums.worldoflogs.com/viewtopic.php?f=15&amp;t=3484

I won&#039;t say it&#039;s not the worst, but it&#039;s not as bad as WoL/Raidbots says it is.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But it&#8217;s not as bad as raidbots indicates. Raidbots parses its data from WoL, and WoL cannot accurately track SS (one of Disc&#8217;s top mitigation due to how it&#8217;s calculated). It&#8217;s a known issue: <a href="http://forums.worldoflogs.com/viewtopic.php?f=15&#038;t=3484" rel="nofollow">http://forums.worldoflogs.com/viewtopic.php?f=15&#038;t=3484</a></p>
<p>I won&#8217;t say it&#8217;s not the worst, but it&#8217;s not as bad as WoL/Raidbots says it is.</p>
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		<title>By: Lighthunter2</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lighthunter2]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2012 23:38:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wasn&#039;t shocked when I started reading this. Enveloping Mists gives a truckload of health, instant while channeling soothing, boosts soothing, no mana, and (the broken part of it) has no cooldown. The only thing monks are really spending mana on is renewing mists, which isn&#039;t a big loss thanks to mana tea. I don&#039;t know how much this will change do to the fact that they&#039;re complaining that the Serpent statue is &quot;limiting them like a totem, and the bubble blowing of they&#039;re mastery is widely being ignored.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wasn&#8217;t shocked when I started reading this. Enveloping Mists gives a truckload of health, instant while channeling soothing, boosts soothing, no mana, and (the broken part of it) has no cooldown. The only thing monks are really spending mana on is renewing mists, which isn&#8217;t a big loss thanks to mana tea. I don&#8217;t know how much this will change do to the fact that they&#8217;re complaining that the Serpent statue is &#8220;limiting them like a totem, and the bubble blowing of they&#8217;re mastery is widely being ignored.</p>
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		<title>By: Kuhbus</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kuhbus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2012 08:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I worked myself through the whole thread and i feel totaly helpess ... I&#039;m about gearing myself for raids and get the feeling that this is totaly superfluous!
Yesterday I was kicked from my first (random) 10-man despite having better gear than the monk-heal. Even the riadlaid knew my skill from common ulduar raids. Simple reason: &quot;Druids are too low atm&quot; ... great ....  
Do you expect any solution by Blizz in the near future?
I&#039;m really thinking about to retire my Druid early and play my DK tank :-(]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I worked myself through the whole thread and i feel totaly helpess &#8230; I&#8217;m about gearing myself for raids and get the feeling that this is totaly superfluous!<br />
Yesterday I was kicked from my first (random) 10-man despite having better gear than the monk-heal. Even the riadlaid knew my skill from common ulduar raids. Simple reason: &#8220;Druids are too low atm&#8221; &#8230; great &#8230;.<br />
Do you expect any solution by Blizz in the near future?<br />
I&#8217;m really thinking about to retire my Druid early and play my DK tank <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Tully</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tully]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2012 21:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is somthing not right thats for sure, I am Item Level 480 so not to shabby, normally raid in 10 man , did LFR today and a Pala and a Monk had 20K plus more  HPS then me, i pushed the boat out a few times and could not get close, when i was close to running out of mana they both had over half left.

In 10 man i run with a pala, Disc and a DK tank and sometimes it feels like i might as well not bother , my overheal is silly sometimes, our pala is starting to stack int , i have tried both int and spirit  and nothing seams to change  apart from running out of mana more,]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is somthing not right thats for sure, I am Item Level 480 so not to shabby, normally raid in 10 man , did LFR today and a Pala and a Monk had 20K plus more  HPS then me, i pushed the boat out a few times and could not get close, when i was close to running out of mana they both had over half left.</p>
<p>In 10 man i run with a pala, Disc and a DK tank and sometimes it feels like i might as well not bother , my overheal is silly sometimes, our pala is starting to stack int , i have tried both int and spirit  and nothing seams to change  apart from running out of mana more,</p>
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