Comments on: Same Problems, Different Day Pt. 2 – Continued Resto Druid Evaluation

By: Lesanthria

Lesanthria — Wed, 14 Nov 2012 01:03:45 +0000

Brain failure. I meant each player could be hit by only one mushroom per bloom. Sorry.

By: Lesanthria

Lesanthria — Wed, 14 Nov 2012 01:01:02 +0000

Like others who have commented, I primarily raid 10s. Also like the others, I have noticed our other healers output improving while mine stagnates. What struck me most, however was going into the second half of Heart of Fear in LFR today. The first two bosses in there (Wind Lord Mel’jarak and Amber-Shaper Un’sok) made me feel, depressed and demoralised. In four years of serious raiding as a healer I have never, ever felt so useless. I used my cooldowns correctly, I didn’t go OOM, I did everything I possibly could to produce the best healing I was able. The top healer was a monk, closely followed by a priest and shaman (clearly all fairly competent). Both my HPS and total healing done were half to two thirds of theirs. I’m not a noob, I normally sit comfortably at the top of the healing meter in any raid, or very close to it (and yes I know meters alone aren’t a great measure of skill), but this experience made me glad that our lack of ability to respond to burst damage is less obvious in 10s. I really feel for anyone who raids on 25 man because the latest 5.1 build is a release candidate which means no fixes this patch.

On a constructive note: while I agree with your comments from an earlier post, Beru, that replacing Mushrooms with something completely different would be best, sadly I suspect that we are stuck with them. Given that, wondered if modifying the healing shrooms so that they heal for 3 times the amount they do currently (or preferably more) but are only able to hit a single target each bloom might help. That way we’d only need 1 shroom for an entire group of either size when stacked, but could also plant 3 to heal more targets when the raid was spread out. Increased radius would also be beneficial.

By: wingria

wingria — Mon, 12 Nov 2012 14:33:47 +0000

I can’t say I find the HOT’s ticking as being a problem…in most situations pre-hotting the tank with everything you got is just overhealing and a waste. Before engaging you only need Lifebloom stacked, your Harmony procc’d and maybe a Rejuvenation. Problem we all have is we are old and outdated compared to other healers. Its like Beru said, our toolkit is outdated and has nothing new to keep up with the new mechanics in the new encounters. There is only so many ways you can rotate the same HOT’s which in the end up all add up to the same numbers.

By: Ceteak

Ceteak — Mon, 12 Nov 2012 12:08:55 +0000

Its not that our healing is low its that its not doing anything worthwhile. when i look at logs my healing output is top, but the amount doing any healing is low.
If i pre hot our tank with everything i have before the pull the first heals i see on recount are our priest and pala’s and also the tanks, mine are just sitting there doing nothing, when his health does dip the pala is that quick at getting his heals off my hots dont have time to tick .

By: Row

Row — Sun, 11 Nov 2012 20:09:32 +0000

I’ve also had issues. My 10man raid team runs me as a druid healer, a monk and a shaman. Why? Because my raid healing falls short. I’ve scoured and tried tweaking my gear to be optimal. I’m always out of mana. And most of the gear we’re supposed to get through valor points has no spirit for mana regen. My intellect is 14k spirit almost 9k. I make sure I have harmony up, changed glyphs. Made my haste breakpoint. Still….when that raid aoe damage comes up and my tranq is down, there’s nothing I can do. When it is up I can’t keep up the raid unless I have the shaman or someone else doing their aoe heals with me. It doesn’t help that when wildgrowth is up it never lands on the ppl that really need it. And those healing mushrooms? really? worst idea ever!

By: Retirement Reasons and Reminiscing Part 4 : Kurn's Corner

Retirement Reasons and Reminiscing Part 4 : Kurn's Corner — Thu, 08 Nov 2012 19:53:14 +0000

[...] it, they’re kind of middle of the pack in terms of damage. All of which is fine except that monk healers are dominating pretty much every other healer out there, which is problematic for a variety of [...]

By: Karakas

Karakas — Wed, 07 Nov 2012 19:51:21 +0000

I’ve experienced the same issues. My HPS has fallen off dramatically as our other healers have geared up. Hot clipping and lack of aoe burst healing are definately a major issue. It refreshing to see that I don’t completely suck or have forgotten how to heal.

By: wingria

wingria — Wed, 07 Nov 2012 14:21:49 +0000

It’s finally nice to read someone else who has been experiencing the same issues. I went from 25man to 10man raiding and although the problem was not as noticeable at first, as you rightly put it with knowledge, experience and gear changes Druid’s are starting to show a slide downhill in 10mans also. Within our setup we usually roll a Druid (me) Paladin and Shaman for healing. Initially my numbers were excellent and I felt strong in healing my first go around in the new raids, however with the new loots it seems that our Shaman and now our Paladin is beginning to pull out bigger, better and stronger healing than myself. I have been concerned about our healing since they starting nerfing us all the way back at the end of TBC and right into WOTLK. I am even more concerned now as we have not seen one single buff or attention given to our restoration tree since Pandaland has hit. Alot of people argue with me that Druids were buffed extremely when 5.0 hit…..yes that is true, we were given access to our Boomy spells, fantastic for PVP and everyday general questing to help us survive…but I ask them in turn…what did the Tree side of Druid’s get to IMPROVE our healing? I only get silence back in response.

I’ve recently rolled out a Mistweaver monk to test the healing style and get a feel for the class compared to my druid. I have to say it is everything that our Druids should be. They have better uptime through healing in all aspects, whether through the continued use of Soothing Mist which can be channeled indefinitely to heal for RIDICULOUS amounts, or by casting Renewing Mist which travels to players to on its own…saving Monk’s global cool downs and without having to interrupt Soothing Mist to do it. Not to mention the spell Uplift, which is like a BURST heal on top of your Renewing Mist and is completely spammable with the constant regeneration of Chi. I could go on and on…but the more I play my Monk the more I pity the Druid class and how much our weaknesses are beginning to show. I completely support this thread and thankyou for sharing your concerns Beru.

By: Centerpin

Centerpin — Tue, 06 Nov 2012 19:11:26 +0000

Well I really feel this is skewed very situation very spread out fight for a Resto Sham with a H Priest in group = H Priest wins for most part. You also have problems like this in Wol http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/0yy989oawxgded0m/sum/healingDone/?s=14089&e=14183#Vicvìpèr

1min long log and gets ranked for 106k HPS so ya